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| slymie Tetraglot Groupie China Joined 5229 days ago 81 posts - 154 votes  Speaks: English, Macedonian Studies: French, Mandarin, Greek Studies: Shanghainese, Uyghur, Russian | Message 17 of 18 08 December 2010 at 8:46am | IP Logged | ||
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I really like the TY series, especially since they don't throw a pile of grammar on you from the beginning, each lesson has a tiny bit of grammar but still at the end of the course you feel like you have a good idea of how things are put together. Also the conversations don't sound so forced and it seems they find really good actors with interesting voices.
As for how many times to listen, as said it all depends on how difficult it seems, as most people will be starting at different levels. Sometimes I will get through a chapter in one day, sometimes it will take a week. One thing I do find really helps is I take the audio from each lesson and open it up in a sound editor, then select the dialougues from the lesson and copy+paste them to a new file. Once in the new file, I delete all the pauses from the audio. In the end you should have a 30 second MP3 that is the conversations from the lesson in a nice compact version you can listen to easily and many many times without having to scan through the lesson. I.E. In the Lessons the actors tend to pause between words to enunciate properly. "I .. feel .. like .. having .. whiskey ... today .. ... and ... you? ........... I ... will .. have ... beer .. " The pauses are obviously not natural sounding and its amazing how much better it sounds when you rip them out. (you could always reference the orig. file if you want to hear a part slowed down) Then, once you finish the book, you can combine all of the conversations into one file (will be about 6 mins). Load it on your ipod or whatever and you can review the entire book whenever and in a really short time. It SOUNDS like lots of work, but once you get used to it, its really easy and I will usually do the whole book before I start, and it takes me maybe 1 hour to do that, but the time it saves and how much it speeds up your learning is well worth it. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| aru-aru Triglot Senior Member Latvia Joined 6458 days ago 244 posts - 331 votes Speaks: Latvian*, English, Russian | Message 18 of 18 04 March 2011 at 11:53am | IP Logged | ||
Well, for that, try the new "TY speak X with confidence" (old "TY conversational X") courses. It's usually three CDs, plus a small booklet with the transcript of all dialogues. The one for Hindi I really enjoyed. It's audio only, they teach you new words first, then they give you the dialogue, that you should be able to figure out after a few listenings and bits of explanation. Though, there's a way to use standard TY book audio for listening to dialogues, which you will be able to understand. You just have to reverse some things. First, listen to the dialogue of the new lesson. Try to understand something. Repeat this step, if you feel like. Get a paper and pen, get ready to press pause button and rewind a lot. Try writing down what you hear. Some words you'll know, some will be new. Spelling is optional, I just try to figure out what which word sounds like, and put it down. You'll see that by trying to write it down, you catch more words (of the ones you're supposed to know) than you did the previous time. Open the new vocabulary list, figure out those new words from the dialogue. You'll be pretty much able to guess what's going on in the dialogue quite well. Only some grammar will leave you a bit confused. Read the dialogue in the book, learn new grammar, learn new vocab, do exercises, and whatever there is. Listen again, if you feel like ;) This is a bit more time consuming, of course, but for me, reading the dialogue AND the translation, and only then attempting to listen to it, is not much useful. I have good guessing skills and good short term memory, so while I listen, I'll be able to follow and will feel like everything's clear, but a week later, I will be lost again. Trying to figure it out myself without the clues gets my brain engaged in the process, and it works better. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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