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| alang Diglot Senior Member Canada Joined 7222 days ago 563 posts - 757 votes  Speaks: English*, Spanish | Message 25 of 37 20 February 2011 at 5:16am | IP Logged | ||||||||
I listened to only two lessons of LSLC 1 and pleasantly surprised how it used the Pimsleur method . In my experience LSLC applies the Pimsleur method, but with emphasis on the familiar form and more vocabulary. I am aware of the heated exchanges of a previous thread years ago referring to LSLC and I was one that said I pretty much would not buy the product. I still do not intend to buy it, as my Spanish is a higher level now. I do recommend it for beginners and if you like the Pimsleur style programs. LSLC 1 and 2 are already out and a three is coming out soon. A LILC 1 is also out and I probably will use that in the future, after I have used Pimsleur. I am guessing Paul Noble uses the MT style (Like LSLC uses the Pimsleur style) and used native speakers instead of non- natives. It would be a drastic improvement, but if you like the MT style of course it would be understandable to give the PN course a chance. I am willing to try it out due to native speakers on the course and I also like the MT style. Hopefully, there is no repetitive mistakes with the PN course compared to the non- native speakers in MT's Spanish course. (The male student specifically) That is another bonus, but time will tell the pros and cons. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Elexi Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 5566 days ago 938 posts - 1840 votes Speaks: English* Studies: French, German, Latin | Message 26 of 37 20 February 2011 at 3:55pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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The Paul Noble courses, whilst using the Michel Thomas idea of explicity teaching grammar with non grammatical terminology and then applying it to sentence building, do not follow Michel Thomas' method of having a pair of students making mistakes, with the listener learning from those students' mistakes. The Paul Noble courses contain Paul Noble, who gives the language and the explanation, a native speaker who gives the pronounciation, then Paul Noble asks a question, you answer, then the native speaker gives the answers.
In my view, the Michel Thomas method works better, annoying students or not. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| fsc Senior Member United States Joined 6330 days ago 100 posts - 117 votes Studies: French | Message 27 of 37 26 February 2011 at 8:20am | IP Logged | ||||||||
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My experience with Pimsleur French is pretty much the same as this review. Edited by fsc on 26 February 2011 at 8:20am 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Normunds Pentaglot Groupie Switzerland Joined 5965 days ago 86 posts - 112 votes Speaks: Latvian*, French, English, Russian, German Studies: Mandarin, Indonesian | Message 28 of 37 26 February 2011 at 9:01am | IP Logged | ||||||||
In short you are saying that the title of this thread is really disturbing. It states as a given (=Pimsleur is good) something that a lot of people gravely doubt.
BTW Elexi, in my opinion the most annyoing in the MT method is the teacher not the students. It is possible that Michael himself has been a better teacher though; I've never heard an original course... Edited by Normunds on 26 February 2011 at 9:05am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| leosmith Senior Member United States Joined 6551 days ago 2365 posts - 3804 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Tagalog | Message 29 of 37 26 February 2011 at 4:58pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
Thanks - that was hilarious! It cracks me up when people try to use a single tool for learning a language, then write pages of text complaining about how it didn't make them fluent. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||||||||
| leosmith Senior Member United States Joined 6551 days ago 2365 posts - 3804 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Tagalog | Message 30 of 37 26 February 2011 at 5:00pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
Totally agree. And Michel is much better than the other teachers, but still more annoying than the students. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| jazzboy.bebop Senior Member Norway norwegianthroughnove Joined 5419 days ago 439 posts - 800 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Norwegian | Message 31 of 37 26 February 2011 at 5:29pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
I'm the opposite, I find some of the students make me want to bang my head off the wall and shout obscenities with alarming regularity but usually find the teachers as being okay. The woman student on the Japanese course really made my blood boil sometimes... Michel was certainly well past his prime when he did those recordings though. Can't really expect much better of someone in their mid eighties I suppose. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Cainntear Pentaglot Senior Member Scotland linguafrankly.blogsp Joined 6012 days ago 4399 posts - 7687 votes Speaks: Lowland Scots, English*, French, Spanish, Scottish Gaelic Studies: Catalan, Italian, German, Irish, Welsh | Message 32 of 37 26 February 2011 at 6:06pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
Hmm...
With every course claiming to be complete, is it any wonder that people expect to simply do a course, and that's that? 2 persons have voted this message useful |
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