Ethereal Winter Diglot Newbie Australia Joined 5026 days ago 4 posts - 5 votes Speaks: Cantonese, English*
| Message 1 of 16 21 February 2011 at 12:37pm | IP Logged |
I am currently doing Pimsleur's Mandarin. Whilst it will be a long time before I'm proficient, I am thinking ahead to what programmes I might want buy to teach me written Chinese. I've looked at a few and noticed they are all in simplified chinese to my dismay. I am used to traditional characters (I used to go to a "Chinese Sunday School" but I never really was motivated (sigh being a kid), so I basically am starting from scratch right now) and am mystified why they even changed them, as all the new characters are strange and look quite similar to each other and have lost connotations to what they might have meant before (Where is the heart in Love!), and thus I think it's actually detriment to literacy. Any way I am wondering if there is any Programmes that still teach the Traditional writing method?
Thank you for your time.
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jimbo Tetraglot Senior Member Canada Joined 6295 days ago 469 posts - 642 votes Speaks: English*, Mandarin, Korean, French Studies: Japanese, Latin
| Message 2 of 16 21 February 2011 at 1:27pm | IP Logged |
Lots of stuff still available in traditional characters. On-line resources too. It just takes a little bit of hunting to find
if you aren't living in the right place.
I've seen a series (some books in traditional, some in simplified) published by the Chinese University of Hong Kong
that looks pretty good. (Or maybe it was Hong Kong University.)
Do you have any friends or family in Hong Kong or Taiwan? They can hook you up.
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newyorkeric Diglot Moderator Singapore Joined 6380 days ago 1598 posts - 2174 votes Speaks: English*, Italian Studies: Mandarin, Malay Personal Language Map
| Message 3 of 16 21 February 2011 at 1:51pm | IP Logged |
Take a look at the DeFrancis readers. You can also buy the accompagnying audio. They're wonderful - I just wish I had the time to use them.
Edited by newyorkeric on 21 February 2011 at 1:52pm
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Ethereal Winter Diglot Newbie Australia Joined 5026 days ago 4 posts - 5 votes Speaks: Cantonese, English*
| Message 4 of 16 22 February 2011 at 2:51am | IP Logged |
Sadly I don't don't have any family that I know of/am in contact with in HK, Taiwan or even China for that matter. All my relatives that I know of are in Vietnam. My parents can speak Vietnamese but I guess they never spoke it directly too me or in front of me when I was young for me to pick any of it up. All I know are the words for "eat" and "buy" XD
Thanks neyworkeric, I'll have to check DeFrancis out later.
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Snowflake Senior Member United States Joined 5960 days ago 1032 posts - 1233 votes Studies: Mandarin
| Message 5 of 16 22 February 2011 at 4:18am | IP Logged |
Some other options...."Integrated Chinese" and "David and Helen in China" have traditional character versions of their text books. The older Yale Mirror series books for reading and writing are mostly in traditional with the newer editions using pinyin in addition to Yale romanization (you can ignore the Yale romanization part). I imagine "Integrated Chinese" and "David and Helen in China" would be available in Australia. The Yale Mirror series, because it is older, tends to be harder to find. I've seen other, more recent textbooks in traditional characters though can't remember those names.
Oh, and if you like the Heisig method, there is a traditional characters version. The 2nd volume though has not yet been published.
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jimbo Tetraglot Senior Member Canada Joined 6295 days ago 469 posts - 642 votes Speaks: English*, Mandarin, Korean, French Studies: Japanese, Latin
| Message 6 of 16 22 February 2011 at 6:48am | IP Logged |
Ah, I remember the Mirror Series. That's where I got started.
I popped over to the bookstore. The books I was referring to above are published by Chinese University Press. Chinese University of Hong Kong, that is. Good books. Some are in simplified, some use traditional characters, some use both.
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Snowflake Senior Member United States Joined 5960 days ago 1032 posts - 1233 votes Studies: Mandarin
| Message 7 of 16 22 February 2011 at 11:49pm | IP Logged |
jimbo wrote:
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That's what I used in college. I have the first and second year books plus others in the series. Don't think I have any of the associated recordings though have seen those from time to time.
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Snowflake Senior Member United States Joined 5960 days ago 1032 posts - 1233 votes Studies: Mandarin
| Message 8 of 16 22 February 2011 at 11:59pm | IP Logged |
Ethereal Winter,
This may not help, but I want to encourage you in looking for materials. A friend picked up kids readers for me, in New York's Chinatown, which are in traditional Chinese. From memory, it's grades 1 to 6 or 1 to 8. The thing that took me aback was that the publisher is a university in Beijing. The notes are in pinyin.
The other thing I can think of is Chinese school curriculum. And I don't mean public schools with immersion programs. I'm referring to schools run by overseas born Chinese who wish to teach their kids the culture and language. These schools usually meet on Sat and Sun. The larger local schools here use simplified but there are smaller schools which teach traditional characters using curriculum.
So keep looking. Those materials are out there.
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