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| jimbo Tetraglot Senior Member Canada Joined 6295 days ago 469 posts - 642 votes  Speaks: English*, Mandarin, Korean, French Studies: Japanese, Latin | Message 9 of 16 23 February 2011 at 1:03am | IP Logged | ||||||||
You guys had recordings? I love the Internet. Here it is. Mirror Series 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Ethereal Winter Diglot Newbie Australia Joined 5026 days ago 4 posts - 5 votes Speaks: Cantonese, English* | Message 10 of 16 23 February 2011 at 1:15am | IP Logged | ||||||||
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Snowflake, I have a few of those books as I used to go to one of those schools. The books assume you can already speak the language and are being taught by a teacher as they have no English translation and no transliteration except bopomofo, which was not even taught and phased out by the time I started. Maybe they have new books now?
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| Adamdm Groupie Australia Joined 5438 days ago 62 posts - 89 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Mandarin, Japanese, Dari, German, Spanish, Russian, Arabic (Written) | Message 11 of 16 23 February 2011 at 1:33am | IP Logged | ||||||||
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I suggest that you get hold of Richard Harbaugh's "Chinese Characters: A Genealogy and Dictionary". He has a very useful web-site (www.zhongwen.com) with the contents of this dictionary on it, but I strongly recommend getting the physical book, and also practice writing characters over and over on paper - not using a computer!
Write characters again and again on scrap paper - your memory and understanding will be greatly enhanced by the physical activity. My preferred writing instrument is a 2B lead pencil, sharpened to a chisel-like point - it's hardly traditional, but I can use it to get the variation in line thickness that you can't get with a biro. Use the dictionary to study their etomylogical composition (BTW, of course the above dictionary is of traditional characters - in fact my single disappointment with it is that you can't look up a character via its simplified form if that is all you have). I'd also like to endorse newyorkeric's recommendation of the DeFrancis readers - I find these very useful, for improving both my reading, and my speaking - I found that many phrases from the written dialogues (which I read silently on the train) became incorporated without deliberate effort, into my speech repertoir. Edited by Adamdm on 23 February 2011 at 1:36am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Snowflake Senior Member United States Joined 5960 days ago 1032 posts - 1233 votes Studies: Mandarin | Message 12 of 16 23 February 2011 at 2:08am | IP Logged | ||||||||
You didn't have recordings in school? The only thing about that site is that you can't order off of it...yes, I tried to. Audioforum, when it used to be around, had CDs of some of the material. I also saw used audios on Amazon. A friend agreed to read and record the CHINESE MYTHICAL STORIES for me, but then I switched to simplified characters. Edited by Snowflake on 23 February 2011 at 2:12am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Snowflake Senior Member United States Joined 5960 days ago 1032 posts - 1233 votes Studies: Mandarin | Message 13 of 16 23 February 2011 at 2:10am | IP Logged | ||||||||
I've seen recent material in traditional characters. The beginning material had every sentence with hanyu pinyin below the characters. The series I saw did not assume that you already spoke the language. I've checked out some of the local Chinese schools and took class at one. While a decent number of the kids coming in already know how to speak some Mandarin, a good number don't. Edited by Snowflake on 23 February 2011 at 2:18am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| jimbo Tetraglot Senior Member Canada Joined 6295 days ago 469 posts - 642 votes Speaks: English*, Mandarin, Korean, French Studies: Japanese, Latin | Message 14 of 16 23 February 2011 at 2:18am | IP Logged | ||||||||
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I'm going to have to hunt around some old bookstores. I recently dug up my old copy of the Mirror Series version of "Strange Stories from a Chinese Studio". It's great once you know the basic 600 characters or so. Gives you something interesting to read and a sense of satisfaction. Both simplified and traditional characters.
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| Snowflake Senior Member United States Joined 5960 days ago 1032 posts - 1233 votes Studies: Mandarin | Message 15 of 16 23 February 2011 at 5:19am | IP Logged | ||||||||
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Ethereal Winter,
One other idea in addition to what has already been mentioned....Since you're using Pimsleur, check out CLO (http://www.chineselearnonline.com). Their transcripts are in traditional and simplified. It's out of Taiwan so their speakers have a slight Taiwanese accent. Update; Looking at different sites and noticed that http://chinesepod.com says that their transcripts are also in traditional. Edited by Snowflake on 23 February 2011 at 6:03am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| aru-aru Triglot Senior Member Latvia Joined 6458 days ago 244 posts - 331 votes Speaks: Latvian*, English, Russian | Message 16 of 16 25 February 2011 at 3:40pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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I've used (and loved) the series "Practical Audio-Visual Chinese" By National Taiwan Normal University see their stuff on Amazon
I've only used books 1 and 2 (book 3 was published back then, but volumes 4 and 5 - not), and they were pretty intensive. Book 2 had interesting dialogues, dealing with contraception, elections and stuff, not the usual things most Chinese books cover. I'd recommend these books. Book 2 was already pretty non-beginner, so these 5 books could get you far. Also, I'm somewhat familiar with "Integrated Chinese", and the second book also has interesting topics, one I remember is "equality for men and women". See preview of the book here: Also, this book has huge amounts of supplementary stuff available on various university websites if you just google. It's a bit too intensive maybe at first, especially vocabulary-wise, but it's a good book. Cheng and Tsui sells a lot of Chinese books, including these. I remember them having some Listening-intensive books as well, go through the website carefully. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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