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Keilan
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 Message 17 of 70
14 May 2011 at 3:00am | IP Logged 
Akao wrote:
Nowadays, it seems that all social skills are thrown out the window until you are a Senior. Most of my friends are college students or adults anyway. I get along with them a lot better than the vapid high schoolers who constantly complain about meaningless relationships and video games.


At first I was going to agree with you, but after reading your posts I see you are dealing with a bad case of "Counting chickens before they hatch" mixed with a decent amount of acting like a brat.

First off, every 14 year old thinks other 14 year olds occupy themselves with mindless drivel. The other kids could very well talk about how you do nothing but obsess over useless languages and becoming over-educated. And they would probably have just as much point as you talking about video games and meaningless relationships. And for the record, I put a fair bit of weight on languages, education, and video games. Perhaps you should try to get over the idea that you're so much better than everyone else, and enjoy the fact that you are obviously in a very nice private school. 5 people would be a treat.

I would also avoid telling us about all these degrees you are going to get when you don't even fully understand what they are (for example, a Ph.D is a type of doctorate, your idea that you will get a doctorate but not a Ph.D suggests that you plan to go to medical school or something). Finally, even for me (and I will not claim to be any sort of genius), high school was not overly hard and should leave plenty of time for your own studies. Do the high school work, do your studies in the evening, and perhaps hang out with some of the other students, you may be surprised to find there is more to their lives than video games and dating.

And, since the above was fairly harsh, I should add a bit of a disclaimer here. I am certain you are very smart, and perhaps you are genuinely mature for your age. There is absolutely no reason why you can't achieve great things in college and get a Ph.D at a young age. But, at the risk of sounding cheesy, enjoy the trip. Life is too short to desperately rush to the next goal, because I promise that won't stop at the Ph.D. After that it will be "things will be better once I get a professor job", and then "things will be better once I get tenure" and so on. Being smart is fun. So is high school. Enjoy both of them. And I am certain you'll find time to learn Spanish on the side.
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GREGORG4000
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 Message 18 of 70
14 May 2011 at 3:13am | IP Logged 
I suggest studying as much as you can autodidactially, and then racking up a bunch of credits at a community college when you're 16-17 and then transferring. Also, I suggest studying early in the morning, not the evening.
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Akao
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 Message 19 of 70
14 May 2011 at 3:15am | IP Logged 
GREGORG4000 wrote:
I suggest studying as much as you can autodidactially, and then
racking up a bunch of credits at a community college when you're 16-17 and then
transferring. Also, I suggest studying early in the morning, not the evening.


Thank you for answering that question. I know it can be difficult because of how vague it
is.
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Carisma
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 Message 20 of 70
14 May 2011 at 4:15am | IP Logged 
Stop thinking so much about the qualifications you want to get, and more in getting the education itself. It really doesn't matter at what age you graduate and with what degree, what matters is what you actually can do, what skills you have, what you know and what attitude you have towards working or learning new things. Degrees are superficial, what matters is knowledge. Don't think high school is just useless, I've been through it and while it's true I didn't learn much theory, I can say I learnt how to be a team player, how to be a humble person and how to get along with my peers, and most companies around the world are looking for people that can work efficiently in a group. Not everything in life is about learning and learning, there are other sides as well, and, especially if you like languages, being able to get on with people of any age will give you more chances to communicate, and will allow you to understand the young side of the population a little more.
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Akao
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 Message 21 of 70
14 May 2011 at 4:32am | IP Logged 
Carisma wrote:
Stop thinking so much about the qualifications you want to get, and more
in getting the education itself.


That's actually what I'm going for. I don't really look into the credentials much, I kind
of know about them, but like I said I really wanted college because of the better
education I'd get there.
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tracker465
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 Message 22 of 70
14 May 2011 at 7:44am | IP Logged 
Akao wrote:
Carisma wrote:
Stop thinking so much about the qualifications you want to get, and more
in getting the education itself.


That's actually what I'm going for. I don't really look into the credentials much, I kind
of know about them, but like I said I really wanted college because of the better
education I'd get there.


I went to a state school for my Bachelor’s degree, something which I regret now that I am looking at Masters programmes and will likely have to take a few undergraduate linguistics classes before I can enter into the Masters programme (I switched majors three times, and the final time I switched to English since a linguistics degree was not offered, though in hindsight I should have perhaps switched schools). I must say though, that when my German friend came to visit and sat in some of the classes, he later told me “Wow, this is high school!” Now more prestigious schools surely have higher standards and more difficult workloads, but in reality, some classes really aren’t the large wealth of information that you might expect, even at the college level. Heck, I even have a friend who is not brilliant, yet he received a Master’s degree from a university and spent 90% of the time either playing guitar or drinking at the bar. Need I say more?   
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Akao
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 Message 23 of 70
14 May 2011 at 7:48am | IP Logged 
tracker465 wrote:
Akao wrote:
Carisma wrote:
Stop thinking so much about the
qualifications you want to get, and more
in getting the education itself.


That's actually what I'm going for. I don't really look into the credentials much, I
kind
of know about them, but like I said I really wanted college because of the better
education I'd get there.


I went to a state school for my Bachelor’s degree, something which I regret now that I
am looking at Masters programmes and will likely have to take a few undergraduate
linguistics classes before I can enter into the Masters programme (I switched majors
three times, and the final time I switched to English since a linguistics degree was
not offered, though in hindsight I should have perhaps switched schools). I must say
though, that when my German friend came to visit and sat in some of the classes, he
later told me “Wow, this is high school!” Now more prestigious schools surely have
higher standards and more difficult workloads, but in reality, some classes really
aren’t the large wealth of information that you might expect, even at the college
level. Heck, I even have a friend who is not brilliant, yet he received a Master’s
degree from a university and spent 90% of the time either playing guitar or drinking at
the bar. Need I say more?   


Enlightening yes haha. At least I can take Chinese at the college. My high school
doesn't offer it.
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Akao
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 Message 24 of 70
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