Ari Heptaglot Senior Member Norway Joined 6582 days ago 2314 posts - 5695 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English, French, Spanish, Portuguese, Mandarin, Cantonese Studies: Czech, Latin, German
| Message 10 of 34 14 May 2011 at 10:03pm | IP Logged |
The grammar is not too bad (very regular), but it has no cognates with English and very few loanwords (only a
handful, like "coffee", "Internet" and "f*ck", but they've been phonetically altered to a point where they're difficult to
recognize), and the pronunciation is a nightmare. You have to squirt water out of your blowhole to get the nasals
even remotely correct, and half the vowels are on frequencies beyond human hearing. All in all, definitely a class IV,
possibly even hard enough to invent a class V.
Also admin, please add "Dolphin" to the list of languages. Possibly the Pacific and Atlantic versions count as
different languages (depends on whom you ask).
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Doitsujin Diglot Senior Member Germany Joined 5320 days ago 1256 posts - 2363 votes Speaks: German*, English
| Message 11 of 34 15 May 2011 at 12:43am | IP Logged |
Ari wrote:
Also admin, please add "Dolphin" to the list of languages. Possibly the Pacific and Atlantic versions count as different languages (depends on whom you ask). |
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Excellent idea. We should also open a separate thread to discuss theories about the origins and sounds of the Proto-Cetacean language and the creoles that dolphins must have developed for talking to other Cetaceans such as whales and porpoises. See this article for more information.
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jazzboy.bebop Senior Member Norway norwegianthroughnove Joined 5418 days ago 439 posts - 800 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Norwegian
| Message 12 of 34 15 May 2011 at 1:11am | IP Logged |
By the time we figure out their language it will all be too late. The only thing we will
learn to understand will be "So long, and thanks for all the fish" and then the Vogons
will destroy the planet to make a hyper spatial express route. Just remember, don't
panic.
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leosmith Senior Member United States Joined 6550 days ago 2365 posts - 3804 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Tagalog
| Message 13 of 34 15 May 2011 at 2:41am | IP Logged |
jazzboy.bebop wrote:
By the time we figure out their language it will all be too late. The only thing we will
learn to understand will be "So long, and thanks for all the fish" and then the Vogons
will destroy the planet to make a hyper spatial express route. Just remember, don't
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They call him Flipper, Flipper, faster than lightning,
No-one you see, is smarter than he,
And we know Flipper, lives in a world full of wonder,
Flying there-under, under the sea!
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Thantophobia Groupie United States Joined 5162 days ago 49 posts - 66 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Japanese
| Message 14 of 34 15 May 2011 at 4:07am | IP Logged |
Dolphins are very intelligent. They figured out how to trap fish by swatting their tails
in the mud, causing clouds that the fish believe to be an impassible wall, and stay
inside. Then the dolphins have a feast.
Also, this is an interesting idea on animal intelligence:
http://dir.salon.com/story/
books/review/2002/09/04/wise/
Edited by Thantophobia on 15 May 2011 at 4:10am
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Ari Heptaglot Senior Member Norway Joined 6582 days ago 2314 posts - 5695 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English, French, Spanish, Portuguese, Mandarin, Cantonese Studies: Czech, Latin, German
| Message 15 of 34 15 May 2011 at 10:41am | IP Logged |
I wonder if there have been attempts to teach dolphins a language, the way one has done with chimps. With
chimps we can communicate via a sign language, but that might be hard to do with dolphins, for obvious
reasons. But maybe with modern technology we could make a system that allows humans to hear and produce
sounds more natural to the dolphins? Reading about
Washoe makes one wonder. Quoting the Wikipedia article:
"People who should be there for her and aren't are often given the cold shoulder--her way of informing them
that she's miffed at them. Washoe greeted Kat [the caretaker] in just this way when she finally returned to work
with the chimps. Kat made her apologies to Washoe, then decided to tell her the truth, signing "MY BABY DIED".
Washoe stared at her, then looked down. She finally peered into Kat's eyes again and carefully signed "CRY",
touching her cheek and drawing her finger down the path a tear would make on a human. (Chimpanzees don't
shed tears.) Kat later remarked that that one sign told her more about Washoe and her mental capabilities than all
her longer, grammatically perfect sentences."
Now if dolphins are considered more intelligent than chimps …
Also, how many words does Dolphinese have for "water"?
Edited by Ari on 15 May 2011 at 10:42am
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patuco Diglot Moderator Gibraltar Joined 7015 days ago 3795 posts - 4268 votes Speaks: Spanish, English* Personal Language Map
| Message 16 of 34 15 May 2011 at 2:44pm | IP Logged |
So when's "Dolphinese with Ease" coming out?
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