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| morganie Newbie United States Joined 5427 days ago 31 posts - 41 votes Studies: Mandarin | Message 1 of 23 07 March 2010 at 12:16am | IP Logged | |||||
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Is the Assimil Russian course from 1951 okay to learn from? Were there any significant grammatical or spelling changes in Russian after that time? Does it contain any archaic words, like one would find the word "swell" in 1950s English?
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| tractor Tetraglot Senior Member Norway Joined 5456 days ago 1349 posts - 2292 votes  Speaks: Norwegian*, English, Spanish, Catalan Studies: French, German, Latin | Message 2 of 23 07 March 2010 at 12:37am | IP Logged | |||||
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I don't know about the spelling, but it will without doubt contain archaic words. After all the course is 50-60 years
old. But does it matter? The course will teach you decent grammar, pronunciation and vocabulary. By the time you reach anywhere near "advanced" or "native fluency", you will know what sounds old-fashioned, and therefore avoid these words and expressions. Edited by tractor on 07 March 2010 at 12:45am 4 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| josht Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 6449 days ago 635 posts - 857 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: French, Spanish, Russian, Dutch | Message 3 of 23 07 March 2010 at 1:41am | IP Logged | |||||
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I'm using it right now, and there are indeed a fair number of archaic words. One that comes to mind is носильщик, "porter." I can't really imagine myself ever using that, in English or Russian. But for the most part the vocabulary is fine; a lot of the vocabulary in it is in the much more up-to-date New Penguin Russian Course.
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| datsunking1 Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5588 days ago 1014 posts - 1533 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: German, Russian, Dutch, French | Message 4 of 23 10 March 2010 at 5:55pm | IP Logged | |||||
Do you like the Penguin Russian course? I've heard good things, It's a shame it doesn't have a couple cds with audio... :( 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| spanishlearner Groupie France Joined 5457 days ago 51 posts - 81 votes Speaks: Spanish* | Message 5 of 23 10 March 2010 at 6:01pm | IP Logged | |||||
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As long as you don't rely on it as your exclusive source, the quality of an old Assimil (or indeed, pretty much any other brand) will more than make up for its slightly outmoded language. Just don't go around calling people 'товарищ' and you'll be fine.
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| josht Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 6449 days ago 635 posts - 857 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: French, Spanish, Russian, Dutch | Message 6 of 23 10 March 2010 at 10:31pm | IP Logged | |||||
I do indeed like it, very much so. It doesn't try to skirt around grammar, which is something I really dislike about many of the newer language course books. The New Penguin course coupled with Assimil seems like a good place to start for someone wanting to tackle the language. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| leosmith Senior Member United States Joined 6553 days ago 2365 posts - 3804 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Tagalog | Message 7 of 23 04 February 2011 at 2:45am | IP Logged | |||||
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Does anyone know where I can find this course? I see torrents, but wonder it they are the real deal.
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| LuisFox Tetraglot Newbie Brazil Joined 5052 days ago 11 posts - 14 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, English, Italian, Spanish Studies: Russian | Message 8 of 23 04 February 2011 at 11:42am | IP Logged | |||||
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They used to be in UZ, but were banned from there by request, even they were long out-of-print editions.
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