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cymro Triglot Groupie Wales Joined 6457 days ago 76 posts - 98 votes Speaks: English*, Welsh, French Studies: Italian, Spanish, Latin, Ancient Greek
| Message 9 of 11 29 January 2011 at 10:21am | IP Logged |
kmart wrote:
Alma Edizioni is a highly respected publisher of Italian language learning materials and appears to have quite a collection of textbooks and practice workbooks. They look a little different from the usual, if you like to get away from the traditional, formal study methods. I have just ordered one "Magari", but haven't received it yet, so can't tell you what it's like. I did get some audiobooks from them a while ago, and I really like them, they are short, graded, and come with transcripts.
I like to study grammar from a variety of sources, it keeps the boredom away, gives more practice, and sometimes, the explanation in one book just seems to "gel", even though I read it in 2 others and didn't quite get it.
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I too am planning to use a variety of sources.
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As to learning the subjunctive, I think it depends on the level you want to reach before your trip. You will certainly get by in conversation without it, and with just a little study so you can recognise it (it's certainly easier to recognise when you hear it, than to remember where to use it!). If your studying time is limited it would be better spent on getting as much vocabulary as you can, and a good grasp of the basic tenses.
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There are demands on my time not least a course in Ancient Greek with an exam!
But I have located several electronic vocabulary resources which I can adapt with programming to work with flash card programs. I have already got one grammar book and I have two 3 hour train journeys this week. So I shall be putting the time into using physical flash cards and learning the basic tenses. Already speaking French well is a major help I think. I have nearly 9 months to prepare in that time I can learn around 7 or 8000 words which is enough for a pretty good level of fluency. Time allowing of course. I will start by working with the list from Basic English I think. This is about 800 words. The key is having enough to get thinking in the language. So verb structure followed by basic vocabulary is the way to start.
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| Chris Heptaglot Senior Member Japan Joined 7124 days ago 287 posts - 452 votes Speaks: English*, Russian, Indonesian, French, Malay, Japanese, Spanish Studies: Dutch, Korean, Mongolian
| Message 10 of 11 29 January 2011 at 11:52am | IP Logged |
If you want to learn a language well, study its grammar. It's only people who are afraid of grammar who decry it; those who don't mind it see what a powerful tool it is.
Onto learning Italian, anyway...
I second the recommendation about the Hugo course, but I recommend that you seek out the complete package that also includes the advanced version.
Living Language Ultimate series is very good - again, there is an advanced course.
I also like the older BBC courses 'Buongiorno Italia' and 'L'Italia Dal Vivo' The 'Italianissimmo' series isn't bad either.
What else? Linguaphone! Assimil is also a favourite of forum users.
Oh, and if you want some free stuff to start you off, visit the BBC Languages website.
Here you go - knock yourself out! http://www.bbc.co.uk/languages/italian/
Finally, a book I love for learning Italian - an old course, which is highly grammar-based and contains no audio: 'Italian For You' - Moira Grego.
Edited by Chris on 29 January 2011 at 12:01pm
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| vilas Pentaglot Senior Member Italy Joined 6963 days ago 531 posts - 722 votes Speaks: Spanish, Italian*, English, French, Portuguese
| Message 11 of 11 29 January 2011 at 4:05pm | IP Logged |
Cammela wrote:
Don't lose your time with grammar, Italians don't use subjunctive, they use only the present;D |
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There is a movement against the extinction of the Italian subjunctive
http://salviamoilcongiuntivo.blogspot.com/
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