Ari Heptaglot Senior Member Norway Joined 6582 days ago 2314 posts - 5695 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English, French, Spanish, Portuguese, Mandarin, Cantonese Studies: Czech, Latin, German
| Message 9 of 32 21 April 2011 at 8:23am | IP Logged |
Anger or a heated argument can have much the same effect. This is the core in what's called the "Sailor Method" (not to be confused with the "Sailor Moon Method" of Japanese learning): Travel to a foreign country, get drunk and pick a fight. You'll be fluent in no time.
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Nguyen Senior Member Vietnam Joined 5093 days ago 109 posts - 195 votes Speaks: Vietnamese
| Message 10 of 32 21 April 2011 at 8:54am | IP Logged |
I would have to say this is true in social settings. My friend Brian is an Englishman living in Ho Chi Minh City. When we go for coffee he is normaly reserved and shy about speaking in Vietnamese. When we go out for drinks with collegues though, he becomes very lucid and his speech is more automatic (and also very good I might add!). I have noticed the same thing myself when learning English. I think the social setting helps alot.
I wouldn't advise sitting home alone with a bottle of booze whilst studying terribly productive though. I tried this once as an experiment after going to a friends wedding in California. I felt like the world had opened up as I was much more comfortable speaking English during the festivities. My thought at the time was that, perhaps; the alchohol had opened up a language learning part of my brain. Rather, I became confused and groggy after about fifteen minutes of study. Waking up at my desk with a terrible hangover!
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aru-aru Triglot Senior Member Latvia Joined 6457 days ago 244 posts - 331 votes Speaks: Latvian*, English, Russian
| Message 12 of 32 21 April 2011 at 11:18am | IP Logged |
Well, I did have a friend, who, after a few drinks, always started speaking English with much better grammar than when sober.
So, who knows. Though I do agree that alcohol mostly helps with shyness and tends to increase the amount of language spoken, and mostly only that.
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DrPaulRobertson Diglot Newbie United States Joined 4966 days ago 5 posts - 10 votes Speaks: English*, Japanese Studies: French
| Message 13 of 32 21 April 2011 at 3:32pm | IP Logged |
I don't make a habit of getting drunk but a drink does seem to have a beneficial effect. People have commented that I speak more fluently when I have had a drink. I don't think I speak 'better' but I do speak faster and I have less situations where I just stop to think about a sentence. Without a drink I am apt to stop to think excessively about how to say something. This destroys the flow of conversation and makes me not want to participate. After a drink I am more able to just allow myself to make mistakes but be a better conversation participant. The result of this is that I speak more and listen to more (because I am engaged in conversation). The downstream effect of that is highly beneficial because language is learned by using it -- and sitting quietly and not talking get you nowhere.
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Arekkusu Hexaglot Senior Member Canada bit.ly/qc_10_lec Joined 5381 days ago 3971 posts - 7747 votes Speaks: English, French*, GermanC1, Spanish, Japanese, Esperanto Studies: Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Estonian
| Message 14 of 32 21 April 2011 at 3:34pm | IP Logged |
I highly doubt reducing mental acuity increases performance.
It probably does reduce inhibitions, but other than that, it's probably all perception. Why not record yourself at both times to compare?
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Marc Frisch Heptaglot Senior Member Germany Joined 6665 days ago 1001 posts - 1169 votes Speaks: German*, French, English, Spanish, Portuguese, Turkish, Italian Studies: Persian, Tamil
| Message 15 of 32 22 April 2011 at 12:18am | IP Logged |
I have experienced this, but only with small amounts of alcohol (2-3 glasses of wine or beer). Your inhibition is reduced by alcohol, so if you're self-conscious about making errors (like I am) drinking can make you hesitate less when you're speaking, so you'll speak more fluently. Of course, after a certain amount of alcohol it'll go downhill...
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pitwo Diglot Senior Member Canada Joined 6159 days ago 103 posts - 121 votes Speaks: French*, English
| Message 16 of 32 22 April 2011 at 12:31am | IP Logged |
Ah, yep. I know it as the Ballmer peak.
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