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Solfrid Cristin
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 Message 9 of 27
08 May 2011 at 11:21am | IP Logged 
I feel as comfortable in English and Spanish as I do in Norwegian, That does not mean that I know all the words or never make mistakes, just that I can go on for hours without thinking twice.

I do remember settings were I would get head aches though, I have been to business meetings were French, German and a little English were used as official languages during the meeting, and outside the meetings I would speak Norwegian with my Swedish and Danish colleagues (and listen to Swedish and Danish), Spanish and Italian with my colleagues from these countries, and German with my Croatian colleague who claimed not to understand any other Western European language. (When I after knowing him for 2 years discovered that he spoke French I was furious, but he just smiled and said that it made him happy that I would speak German just for him. Given the state of my German at the time, I found that very hard to belive, but that is another story).

I remember coming out of those meetings with a 5 star head ache. I do not know whether that was because of the language mix or because I was nervous about entering into difficult negotiations - it might have been a bit of both.

Edited by Solfrid Cristin on 08 May 2011 at 7:47pm

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Fasulye
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 Message 10 of 27
08 May 2011 at 12:16pm | IP Logged 
Solfrid Cristin wrote:
I do remember settings were I would get head aches though, I have been to business meetings were French, German and a little English were used as official languages during the meeting, and outside the meetings I would speak Norwegian with my Swedish and Danish colleagues (and listen to Swedish and Danish), Spanish and Italian with my colleagues from these countries, and German with my Croatian colleague who claimed not to understand any other Western European language. (When I after knowing him from 2 years discovered that he spoke French I was furious, but he just smiled and said that it made him happy that I would speak German just for him. Given the state of my German at the time, I found that very hard to belive, but that is another story).


Now I am jealous!!! I would love to be in such an environment where I could use several languages with different people in one single day. This would give me the kick as it would be the real-life situation of my multilingual conversations I practice with my polyglot Skypies on Skype.

Fasulye
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Ari
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 Message 11 of 27
08 May 2011 at 6:29pm | IP Logged 
RogerK wrote:
I began learning German at 28, took two years to be able to converse on any subject
and due to the fact that I have practiced my profession almost solely in German I prefer to speak German
rather than English. When I speak English I have to search for words which I wouldn't normally use. So it is
possible for the adult learner too.


I think this highlights an interesting issue: you can be differeently comfortable in different languages on
different topics. If called upon to discuss topics like astronomy or typography, topics where most of my
knowledge comes from reading, I'll feel most comfortable in English, as most of my reading is in that
language. Talking about martial arts, I'll be most comfortable in Swedish, since most of my knowledge
comes from instruction and discussion with training partners. Same goes for engineering topics, which I talk
about in Swedish at work. Some aspects of Wing Chun I might even feel most comfortable talking about in
Mandarin, despite my grasp of that language being less firm than Swedish, because I've spent many hours
discussing them with my sifu before I learned Cantonese.
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Solfrid Cristin
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 Message 12 of 27
08 May 2011 at 7:55pm | IP Logged 
Fasulye wrote:
Solfrid Cristin wrote:
I do remember settings were I would get head aches though, I have been to business meetings were French, German and a little English were used as official languages during the meeting, and outside the meetings I would speak Norwegian with my Swedish and Danish colleagues (and listen to Swedish and Danish), Spanish and Italian with my colleagues from these countries, and German with my Croatian colleague who claimed not to understand any other Western European language. (When I after knowing him from 2 years discovered that he spoke French I was furious, but he just smiled and said that it made him happy that I would speak German just for him. Given the state of my German at the time, I found that very hard to belive, but that is another story).


Now I am jealous!!!

Fasulye

Don't be. I am not kidding when I talk about those head aches. When I started out I was 30 years younger than most of the others, I was almost the only girl, I had very little knowledge about railways (which they were all experts in) and I came from an insignificant country whose representatives had not spoken up for 10 years. I used to be so scared that every time I had to say something in the meeting you could use my fingertips as ice cubes. It took years before I actually started to enjoy myself.
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Fasulye
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 Message 13 of 27
08 May 2011 at 8:18pm | IP Logged 
I can recommend anybody who has to deal with real-life situations where he / she has to switch foreign languages in meetings or other situations where he / she has contact with people from foreign countries to train this by talking in different languages to people on Skype. In real life I almost never have native speaker contacts (besides in Dutch) but on Skype I can compensate this by speaking with polylgots who have native level capacities in several of their foreign languages.

Fasulye
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Solfrid Cristin
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 Message 15 of 27
08 May 2011 at 8:44pm | IP Logged 
Kuikentje wrote:
Solfrid Cristin wrote:

Don't be. I am not kidding when I talk about those head aches. When I started out I was 30 years younger than most of the others, I was almost the only girl, I had very little knowledge about railways (which they were all experts in) and I came from an insignificant country whose representatives had not spoken up for 10 years. I used to be so scared that every time I had to say something in the meeting you could use my fingertips as ice cubes. It took years before I actually started to enjoy myself.


wow, frightening!!!

from which countries were those railways experts?

In my family, my Dad like veyr much cars (sometimes he goes over the border in Germany only because it's allowed to drive fast haha), my brother love aeroplanes (he's in the Royal Air Force and will be pilot) but nobody has knowlegde about railways.


Very.

I feel tempted to say all the other countries. Most of them were men in their 60ies, who had started working for the railways when they were still in their teens. The meetings were at the Union International de Chemin de fer (the one that decides the rules concerning Inter Rail tickets). Hence the large concentration of railway experts.
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