irrationale Tetraglot Senior Member China Joined 6051 days ago 669 posts - 1023 votes 2 sounds Speaks: English*, Spanish, Mandarin, Tagalog Studies: Ancient Greek, Japanese
| Message 57 of 213 23 October 2009 at 8:46am | IP Logged |
25 to 50 words a day at this point. I find it a comfortable pace. 50 to 100 is just too much for me and leads to burnout, especially since I must remember the characters and write them.
In my opinion, learning amount of words per day should be inversely proportional to the amount of possible connection the word entails.
Therefore, cramming any of the 1000 most common words is a very bad idea and you are not really "learning" them at all, because you are not cognizant of all the words' connections and usage possibilities. Whereas, a native learning 100 SAT words with 1 or 2 usage possibilities, based on a very solid network of words is no big deal.
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paisley Groupie United States Joined 5713 days ago 59 posts - 60 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Mandarin
| Message 58 of 213 24 October 2009 at 4:42am | IP Logged |
haha, 2! Any more than that and I get lost. Good thing that right now I only have 100-200 words to learn. that's my goal, 2 a day.
Edited by paisley on 24 October 2009 at 4:44am
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ellasevia Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2011 Senior Member Germany Joined 6143 days ago 2150 posts - 3229 votes Speaks: English*, German, Croatian, Greek, French, Spanish, Russian, Swedish, Portuguese, Turkish, Italian Studies: Catalan, Persian, Mandarin, Japanese, Romanian, Ukrainian
| Message 59 of 213 24 October 2009 at 7:31pm | IP Logged |
paisley wrote:
haha, 2! Any more than that and I get lost. Good thing that right now I only have 100-200 words to learn. that's my goal, 2 a day. |
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What do you mean you have only 100-200 words to learn? Is that your goal and definition of "knowing" the language or something? That's a pretty low goal if you ask me. I would already speak very fluent Italian, Greek, German, Japanese, and Swedish in that case.
Edited by ellasevia on 25 October 2009 at 6:32pm
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MinTeoh Newbie New Zealand learnchineseeveryday Joined 5507 days ago 5 posts - 4 votes Speaks: Mandarin*
| Message 60 of 213 28 October 2009 at 5:23am | IP Logged |
For Chinese character, you can't really learn 100-200 words a day.
It's better to learn a Chinese character a day. :)
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Captain Haddock Diglot Senior Member Japan kanjicabinet.tumblr. Joined 6769 days ago 2282 posts - 2814 votes Speaks: English*, Japanese Studies: French, Korean, Ancient Greek
| Message 61 of 213 28 October 2009 at 6:18am | IP Logged |
At one Chinese character per day, it will take you 10 years to develop basic reading skills. That is way too long.
I spent a year learning about 5 kanji per day in order to be able to read basic Japanese materials. I already knew the
kana of course, and I tried to learn a few words using each new kanji at the same time.
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Yukamina Senior Member Canada Joined 6265 days ago 281 posts - 332 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Japanese, Korean, French
| Message 62 of 213 29 October 2009 at 12:04am | IP Logged |
If you can learn 100-200 words a day in the first place, it can be done in Chinese too.
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cordelia0507 Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 5839 days ago 1473 posts - 2176 votes Speaks: Swedish* Studies: German, Russian
| Message 63 of 213 31 October 2009 at 9:53am | IP Logged |
ellasevia wrote:
paisley wrote:
haha, 2! Any more than that and I get lost. Good thing that right now I only have 100-200 words to learn. that's my goal, 2 a day. |
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At least he's honest! Keep it up paisley and hold your head high!
But frankly, I think you can do a bit better than that if you try.
Just keep the book or flashcards in your handbag, on the kitchen table or anywhere you might be likely to sit down for a few minutes.
As for me, I have upped the game a bit though. I said "10 per day" back in July. It's more like 20 now. BUT some of it are full sentences or expressions, not just a word.
I am talking about Russian which is is a very different language. There are often no "hooks" to help you remember a word and the grammar is very difficult.
If I was studying German... NO PROBLEM, could easily learn 30-40 new German words a day, and remember them forever.
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Thatzright Diglot Senior Member Finland Joined 5673 days ago 202 posts - 311 votes Speaks: Finnish*, English Studies: French, Swedish, German, Russian
| Message 64 of 213 31 October 2009 at 1:56pm | IP Logged |
One specific problem for me with learning Russian words is the Cyrillic alphabet. I know the entire alphabet by now, but I'm not always able to just glance at a word and straight away "decode" it to the Latin alphabet in my head (which is, sadly, what I do... I'm not nearly far enough in Russian to "think" in the Cyrillic script), so it can take up to about seven or eight seconds to really even "see" all the letters. And after that there's the fact that some Russian words just kind of don't... look very familiar :-)
In French, I can learn about twenty to thirty words a day, that is presuming that I actually bother to start learning any new ones.
Oh and, I think paisley's learning Mandarin words for his/her (sorry, I don't remember anymore : D) job, which is apparently selling cosmetic products over the phone, so she doesn't exactly need to be able to discuss whatever comes along.
Edited by Thatzright on 31 October 2009 at 1:58pm
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