Emily232 Newbie Ireland Joined 5052 days ago 19 posts - 29 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Spanish
| Message 9 of 24 27 April 2011 at 2:32pm | IP Logged |
I find it helpful just to get used to listening to pronunciation and also to get a feel for the language as it is spoken by native speakers at a normal speed (e.g. listening exercises on C.D. are often artificially slow and clear especially at a beginner level.)
I don't think passively listening leads to a huge improvement but it can help you pick up some frequently used words.
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Arekkusu Hexaglot Senior Member Canada bit.ly/qc_10_lec Joined 5382 days ago 3971 posts - 7747 votes Speaks: English, French*, GermanC1, Spanish, Japanese, Esperanto Studies: Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Estonian
| Message 10 of 24 27 April 2011 at 3:33pm | IP Logged |
In the situation you describe, I find it useless, other than to motivate you and keep your interest active. To me, it's like watching someone run and pretend your exercising. Unless you are actively listening and paying attention, you will not be able to learn much of anything.
Heck, I find that I understand a lot more when I listen to a TV show without subtitles -- just reading the subtitles reduces how much I can learn from the spoken material, so if you're doing something else AND you're not really paying attention, what are you learning?
However, I think there might be some value to playing lessons on a loop in the background, because it's simpler stuff and you do occasionally devote some attention to the material for a few seconds at a time. Over several repetitions, I think you do get something out of it.
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zerothinking Senior Member Australia Joined 6373 days ago 528 posts - 772 votes Speaks: English*
| Message 11 of 24 27 April 2011 at 4:36pm | IP Logged |
How will you ever know how to speak if you've never heard anyone speaking? How will your
brain ever get used to rapid speech if it's never heard rapid speech? Yes, it's useful.
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apparition Octoglot Senior Member United States Joined 6651 days ago 600 posts - 667 votes Speaks: English*, Arabic (Written), French, Arabic (Iraqi), Portuguese, German, Italian, Spanish Studies: Pashto
| Message 12 of 24 27 April 2011 at 5:35pm | IP Logged |
Mark me down as "better than nothing, but not as useful as active listening." I tend not
to listen passively, for what it's worth.
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Teango Triglot Winner TAC 2010 & 2012 Senior Member United States teango.wordpress.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5557 days ago 2210 posts - 3734 votes Speaks: English*, German, Russian Studies: Hawaiian, French, Toki Pona
| Message 13 of 24 27 April 2011 at 6:59pm | IP Logged |
I like to have a bit of music in the background during the early stages of learning a new language, and tend to shelve other forms of passive listening until I can understand them better these days. Some catchy tunes in the language can be quite motivating shortly before studying or during exercise, and they also help me to switch between languages and put on my "Russian head" (to use a Worzel Gummidge analogy). I also often wake up in the morning with a snippet from some Russian chorus in my head, which I then look up and sing in the shower (probably much to my neighbours' amusement), so it can't be all bad. :)
Edited by Teango on 27 April 2011 at 7:00pm
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Arekkusu Hexaglot Senior Member Canada bit.ly/qc_10_lec Joined 5382 days ago 3971 posts - 7747 votes Speaks: English, French*, GermanC1, Spanish, Japanese, Esperanto Studies: Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Estonian
| Message 14 of 24 27 April 2011 at 7:19pm | IP Logged |
zerothinking wrote:
How will you ever know how to speak if you've never heard anyone speaking? How will your
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By listening actively. Not passively.
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Luai_lashire Diglot Senior Member United States luai-lashire.deviant Joined 5829 days ago 384 posts - 560 votes Speaks: English*, Esperanto Studies: Japanese, French
| Message 16 of 24 27 April 2011 at 9:36pm | IP Logged |
I like to use a combination of passive and active listening at the beginning of a language and whenever I reach a
plateau. I find that I need massive audio input to properly develop pronunciation, tone, and cadence. However
that's all that passive is good for. You need active listening to reinforce vocabulary and grammar. I do find that
when I reach plateaus, adding a massive amount of listening seems to help spur me on to the next level, but I can't
say for sure why that is. It may be a psychological effect rather than an actual boost to my language.
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