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leosmith
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 Message 1 of 13
13 March 2011 at 11:16pm | IP Logged 
What's the most outlandish claim you've ever heard a language product make? Or how about a polyglot?
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jazzboy.bebop
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 Message 2 of 13
14 March 2011 at 12:01am | IP Logged 
"Learn a Language in 10 Days with Pimsleur"

Cringe worthy.
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leosmith
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 Message 3 of 13
14 March 2011 at 12:03am | IP Logged 
pimsleurapproach.com wrote:
Use the Pimsleur Approach to speak a new language in only 10 days! Pimsleur
courses took over 40 years to develop and perfect. Just sit back and listen while the audio does the work for you.
Each CD has been scientifically sequenced to rapidly lock language material into your brain after just one listen.
You'll absorb your new language effortlessly without any reading, writing or computer use.

speak a new language in only 10 days - s/b speak a few sentences in 10 days
the audio does the work for you - thank goodness we don't have to think!
lock language material into your brain after just one listen - I waited last in line for brains, 'cause it takes me 2
listens
You'll absorb your new language effortlessly - thank goodness we don't have to think


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leosmith
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14 March 2011 at 12:10am | IP Logged 
michelthomas.com wrote:
You are able to absorb the structures effortlessly and apply them naturally, right from the
start.

The brains I got are sorta rotten and insane, because I require effort.
michelthomas.com wrote:
His approach gives startling results within a remarkably short time, all without the
need for books, memorizing, or homework.

That's a pretty neat trick, learning a language without memorizing anything.
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jazzboy.bebop
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 Message 5 of 13
14 March 2011 at 12:10am | IP Logged 
leosmith wrote:
pimsleurapproach.com wrote:
Use the Pimsleur Approach to speak a new
language in only 10 days! Pimsleur
courses took over 40 years to develop and perfect. Just sit back and listen while the
audio does the work for you.
Each CD has been scientifically sequenced to rapidly lock language material into your
brain after just one listen.
You'll absorb your new language effortlessly without any reading, writing or computer
use.

speak a new language in only 10 days - s/b speak a few sentences in 10 days
the audio does the work for you - thank goodness we don't have to think!
lock language material into your brain after just one listen - I waited last in line
for brains, 'cause it takes me 2
listens
You'll absorb your new language effortlessly - thank goodness we don't have to think



Cost to learn how to ask for directions to the Colosseum using Pimsleur: $9.95.
The look on your face when you realise you can't understand the reply: Priceless.
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leosmith
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 Message 6 of 13
14 March 2011 at 12:23am | IP Logged 
an old post :
leosmith wrote:
In a previous thread, a member quoted a vender selling Pimsleur products. The quote
essentially stated that Pimsleur teaches 2500 words in its 90 lesson programs. I know this to be false, so I
assumed the vender had been taken in by Pimsleur's misleading advertising.

In the past, Pimsleur has stated that 2500 words are needed to reach everyday proficiency in a language. They
never called it fluency, or even the 95% vocab mark. They went on to talk more about their product, but never
made the specific claim that they teach 2500 words. In reality, the 90 programs teach 500 words.

This new vender claim annoyed me, because I felt they had crossed the line from misleading to lying. So I wrote
to the vender stating that I thought they had been misled. They were actually very polite and cooperative. They
ended up emailing Pimsleur support about it, and forwarded this reply to me:

__________________________
Dear Cristian,

Thank you very much for your e-mail. If you were to say complete all three levels of Spanish (I, II, and III) you will
then have the knowledge of over 2500 words. This is basically the amount of words you currently use in your
everyday life. Also, upon completion of each level, you will gain about 33% fluency in Spanish (or the language of
your choice). So after all three levels have been completed, you will be at about 99% fluency!
__________________________

In my opinion, this is a blatant lie. I'd like to convince Pimsleur to stop making these claims. Any suggestions?

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 Message 7 of 13
14 March 2011 at 1:08am | IP Logged 
leosmith wrote:
michelthomas.com wrote:
His approach gives startling results within a remarkably short time, all without the
need for books, memorizing, or homework.

That's a pretty neat trick, learning a language without memorizing anything.

There's a subtle difference between "memorising" and "remembering".


The most outlandish claim I've heard is the magic pixie dust imbued in the work of Baroque composers that sets the brain into a mega learning mode or somesuch.
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