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Journeyer
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 Message 1 of 11
14 March 2011 at 4:58am | IP Logged 
Sometimes I see a word in a given language and understand it in just that language, but not in another language where the word is written the same but has a different meaning.

For example: The other day I saw the word "leer" written on a car's window. I guess it was the name of the glass manufacturer, but without context my mind immediately saw it as the German word for "empty". A second later I recognized as the Spanish word for "to read" and only then did I think of the English word. But my point is, when I see words like that in German, I don't think "Oh this word would be... in Spanish" and whenever I saw "leer" in a Spanish context I never thought of the German or English false friend. I think this is a very neat observation.

I think this is because when I speak, my mind shifts completely or almost so into that language, and I am then in German-mode or Spanish-mode.

I think all successful language learners probably learn the mind-shift, but does anyone else have false-friend blindness?
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jdmoncada
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14 March 2011 at 5:54am | IP Logged 
Leer isn't really the glass manufacturer, but it makes those covers for pickup trucks. it includes the fiberglass and the rest of the shape.


False cognates rarely mix me up, but I do have one recurring problem, the word that is ya in Spanish, ja in Finnish or German and Я. Phonetically, it sounds the same, but in purpose of each of those languages, it means something very different. (In order: already, and, yes, I)

When I speak German, I keep wanting to use the Finnish ja instead of the German und. It's such a small and dumb mistake, but I keep wanting to do it.
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hnedka
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 Message 3 of 11
14 March 2011 at 4:21pm | IP Logged 
jdmoncada wrote:

False cognates rarely mix me up, but I do have one recurring problem, the word that is ya in Spanish, ja in Finnish or German and Я. Phonetically, it sounds the same, but in purpose of each of those languages, it means something very different. (In order: already, and, yes, I)


Arabic has this word too, it's very common and is used when calling someone by name / grabbing his attention (ya Frank, ya habibi, ya Mubarak, ...).
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 Message 4 of 11
14 March 2011 at 4:33pm | IP Logged 
Journeyer wrote:
For example: The other day I saw the word "leer" written on a car's window. I guess it was the name of the glass manufacturer, but without context my mind immediately saw it as the German word for "empty". A second later I recognized as the Spanish word for "to read" and only then did I think of the English word. But my point is, when I see words like that in German, I don't think "Oh this word would be... in Spanish" and whenever I saw "leer" in a Spanish context I never thought of the German or English false friend. I think this is a very neat observation.

I think this is because when I speak, my mind shifts completely or almost so into that language, and I am then in German-mode or Spanish-mode.

I think all successful language learners probably learn the mind-shift, but does anyone else have false-friend blindness?

Why did you assume it was German?
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 Message 5 of 11
14 March 2011 at 4:40pm | IP Logged 
Whenever I see leer I think of "to read" in Spanish. I had no idea what they really do/was.

Whenever I see/hear "ya" in Spanish, I think of Ya in Arabic. Its used to call someones attention.

Ya Abu! Ya Ummi! Ya...[name]. I don't know why, but thats what I do. I
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Journeyer
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 Message 6 of 11
14 March 2011 at 4:56pm | IP Logged 
Arekkusu, it wasn't really an assumption. German is one of my favorite languages, so I think I defaulted to it.
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Arekkusu
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 Message 7 of 11
14 March 2011 at 5:40pm | IP Logged 
This should help you compartmentalize languages so you have little interference from languages when you are speaking one.
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Journeyer
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 Message 8 of 11
14 March 2011 at 5:46pm | IP Logged 
It does. That's what I was implying. I was wondering if others experience the same thing, too, though. One person even told me that even my body language changes from one language to the next.


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