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GREGORG4000 Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5524 days ago 307 posts - 479 votes Speaks: English*, Finnish Studies: Japanese, Korean, Amharic, French
| Message 9 of 16 16 March 2011 at 6:57pm | IP Logged |
malakhim: please stop being über-defensive, nobody has to agree or disagree with you
Spanky: please don't imply "but I think you're stupid because..."
I know that Langenscheidt's "German Basic Vocabulary" has a good organization of words that I have applied to other languages, but that's not a site unfortunately.
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| lingoleng Senior Member Germany Joined 5299 days ago 605 posts - 1290 votes
| Message 11 of 16 16 March 2011 at 10:52pm | IP Logged |
lingvo wrote:
I like malakhim because I like people who have revolutionary ideas.
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An organization of vocabulary by themes is not really a revolutionary idea. I own about ten, maybe 20, hard to say, books, which arrange the words following that principle, some of them several decades old. Oh, let me think, I remember vaguely that Erasmus (or Comenius?) wrote such a book for teaching purposes. It had nice illustrations for visual learners, too, btw.
edit: Links
Orbis Pictus, Wikipedia
Orbis Pictus online
An edition for anglophiles/latinophobes:
Orbis at Google Books
Edited by lingoleng on 16 March 2011 at 11:19pm
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| altito425 Triglot Groupie United States Joined 5961 days ago 65 posts - 70 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, French
| Message 12 of 16 17 March 2011 at 3:09am | IP Logged |
There's a series: Using X Vocabulary which is the best I've been able to find in English. The link goes to Spanish, but there are also editions for French, German, Italian and maybe others. And they organize the vocabulary into units just like the person who started this thread specified.
If you know another foreign language well there are lots of books (and many of them much cheaper) that have lists of vocabulary for German and French speakers. Go to Amazon France or Amazon Germany type in X vocabulary and you should get a lot of results. Unfortunately, if you're strapped for cash, I haven't been able to find anything as comprehensive for free on the internet.
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Slacker Diglot Pro Member United States Joined 5454 days ago 62 posts - 99 votes Speaks: Spanish, English Studies: German, Italian, Russian, Portuguese, Arabic (classical) Personal Language Map
| Message 13 of 16 17 March 2011 at 3:50am | IP Logged |
My favorite book for organized vocabulary learning is "The Heinle Picture Dictionary: Monolingual English Edition"
(Amazon, about $20). When I'm learning a new language, especially an obscure one that doesn't have a lot of
available resources, I use correction tape to cover the English, then write in the book. As an alternative, photocopy
relevant pages with the English covered, write in target-language vocabulary, then compile the pages into a
notebook as you go.
-Slacker
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| ChristopherB Triglot Senior Member New Zealand Joined 6317 days ago 851 posts - 1074 votes 2 sounds Speaks: English*, German, French
| Message 14 of 16 17 March 2011 at 6:20am | IP Logged |
I've never understood how you're supposed to use thematic lists. I have them for French and Spanish, but I
find them very frustrating to use; all the information I need is there, but where to begin? I take it they're
suited to people who learn by means of memorizing isolated word lists, in which case I've wasted money, or
is there a more efficacious way of digesting and internalizing and making use of such material?
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| rapp Senior Member United States Joined 5732 days ago 129 posts - 204 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Esperanto, Spanish
| Message 15 of 16 17 March 2011 at 5:30pm | IP Logged |
BTW, "opinate" I think should be "to opine".
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| LanguageSponge Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 5767 days ago 1197 posts - 1487 votes Speaks: English*, German, French Studies: Welsh, Russian, Japanese, Slovenian, Greek, Italian
| Message 16 of 16 17 March 2011 at 6:02pm | IP Logged |
ChristopherB wrote:
I've never understood how you're supposed to use thematic lists. I have them for French and Spanish, but I
find them very frustrating to use; all the information I need is there, but where to begin? I take it they're
suited to people who learn by means of memorizing isolated word lists, in which case I've wasted money, or
is there a more efficacious way of digesting and internalizing and making use of such material? |
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I've always found organised vocabulary lists like this quite useful - probably because it fits one of the methods I use to actually get words to stay in my head - that being the sentence method. I am quite systematic and almost obsessive in the way that I learn new words and always have been. I make lists of the words I want to learn by topic, just like the original poster has suggested. Right now I am looking at my (very) old vocabulary books for German when I was taking classes in school, and I have a couple of pages worth of words for the body and illnesses, a couple of double pages worth of words for animals, another for cutlery and general culinary stuff, et cetera. For me, these words must relate to each other in some way - not for any linguistic purpose, mind; my own Aspergers and need for routine tend to dictate this. As such, I tend to learn body parts, organs, illnesses and general hospital vocabulary together, for example. Then I'll write a little story or sometimes just isolated sentences trying to use as many of these words as possible. I have quite a good memory for words usually, so I only have to use each word a couple of times in a meaningful context for them to stay in my long-term memory. The sentence method isn't for everyone, as it's quite time-consuming, but that's the way I personally choose to use word lists.
Jack
Edited by LanguageSponge on 18 March 2011 at 12:39pm
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