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| Chung Diglot Senior Member Joined 7157 days ago 4228 posts - 8259 votes  20 sounds Speaks: English*, French Studies: Polish, Slovak, Uzbek, Turkish, Korean, Finnish | Message 17 of 21 22 March 2011 at 3:22pm | IP Logged | |||||
It doesn't really matter here for the purpose of finding false friends. I could have renamed it "Italian (dialectal)". 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| translator2 Senior Member United States Joined 6920 days ago 848 posts - 1862 votes Speaks: English* | Message 18 of 21 22 March 2011 at 3:46pm | IP Logged | |||||
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There is an old joke about a sign in English:
SALE Spanish speakers might wonder "what is coming out". Italian speakers might wonder what the big deal is about "salt". French speakers might stay away because the store is "dirty". -------------------------------- As a side note, my grandmother (French) once thought the furniture store "Sav-on" sold "soap". Edited by translator2 on 22 March 2011 at 3:47pm 3 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| Chung Diglot Senior Member Joined 7157 days ago 4228 posts - 8259 votes 20 sounds Speaks: English*, French Studies: Polish, Slovak, Uzbek, Turkish, Korean, Finnish | Message 19 of 21 22 March 2011 at 5:56pm | IP Logged | |||||
This reminds me a bit of what I saw in Finland. The Finnish word for 'sale' (i.e. unloading stuff at a discount) is "ale". I saw store windows with "ale" everywhere in Helsinki and wondered what English-speaking tourists would initially think on seeing these signs or posters at a fashion boutique or electronics store. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| ikinaridango Triglot Groupie United Kingdom Joined 6126 days ago 61 posts - 80 votes Speaks: English*, Japanese, Italian Studies: German, Polish | Message 20 of 21 22 March 2011 at 7:45pm | IP Logged | |||||
Without wanting to plunge too far into the debate on the difference between dialects and languages, I do think that it's fair to call Sicilian a separate language. If Sicilians had historically spoken standard Italian, then we could say that what is spoken on the island now is an offshoot of standard Italian and the argument to classify it as a dialect would be strong. Sicilian's evolution is instead parallel to that of standard Italian, so while the two are related, neither sprang from the other, and so neither can surely be considered a dialect of the other. I understand that the issue of how to characterise the relationship of Sicilian and Italy's other so-called dialects to standard Italian is often contentious. In most cases, however, I feel that that contention is political in nature; on linguistic grounds it would probably be hard to classify most of the languages of Italy as dialects of Italian. I'm sure that these matters have already been discussed ad nauseam on this forum and I don't want to take this thread off topic, so I'll leave matters there. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| MarcoDiAngelo Tetraglot Senior Member Yugoslavia Joined 6448 days ago 208 posts - 345 votes Speaks: Serbian*, English, Spanish, Russian Studies: Thai, Polish | Message 21 of 21 22 March 2011 at 8:11pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Serbian "rad" = work
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