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Abrown
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 Message 1 of 10
25 March 2011 at 5:52am | IP Logged 
I was wondering if anyone else experienced this "lag" and how to get past it. I am learning Spanish and I notice that many times I do know the words themselves but it takes me a minute to fully process what was said. If I'm watching a movie I debate between pausing it and taking a quick second to think about what was said or simply moving on.

What should I do in this situation?

I decided to try out Live Mocha and during the 3 day trial I skipped right to the Active Spanish Level 4 course (the most advanced) and hammered through it, surpassing all of the basic courses. Although my vocabulary is built up a little from it, I still am seeing situations where I hear words that I do know but don't realize it. I may only realize it if there is a subtitle.

Any advice to building vocabulary and being able to better recognize words when I hear them? Thanks!
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mr_chinnery
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 Message 2 of 10
25 March 2011 at 5:02pm | IP Logged 
I think I know what you mean. I watch alot of Italian news. While I'm processing a word or
phrase, another comes along and sort of 'gets in the way'. BUT the more I listen, the more
I can process. If I watch the news for an hour, my comprehension in the last ten minutes
is better than the first ten. It seems that for me the more aural input I can get, the
better.
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Arekkusu
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 Message 3 of 10
25 March 2011 at 5:19pm | IP Logged 
Same thing happens with older computers that are overwhelmed: they freeze for a little while and take some time to catch up.

Unlike computers, though, the brain improves on its own.

I don't think there's any magic: exposure and practice...

Edited by Arekkusu on 25 March 2011 at 5:19pm

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Abrown
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 Message 4 of 10
25 March 2011 at 7:04pm | IP Logged 
Thanks for the responses!

The other thing I was wondering is whenever I'm watching a movie and I hear a word I don't recognize, should I pause it and write it down? Or just move on?
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Arekkusu
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 Message 5 of 10
25 March 2011 at 7:33pm | IP Logged 
You can write it down, but you'll likely have forgotten the context when you look it up. If you can pause the show and rewind a bit, you'll be able to hear the word being used again.
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jdmoncada
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 Message 6 of 10
26 March 2011 at 6:52am | IP Logged 
I experience that lag even in English, my native language. Often when it happens in my situations, that sense of rush is internal, not external. So I calm myself down and remind myself to "listen slower". I don't have to give immediate answers or reactions. Often what was lacking comes to me in short form anyway without very much wait. Plus, it gives the air of a considered opinion, as opposed to a possibly wrong quick answer.
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thevirginspring
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 Message 7 of 10
27 March 2011 at 7:11am | IP Logged 
EDIT: Okay, I tried posting this as a new topic in the Advice Center and it kept turning my post into a reply to the first topic. I brought my post over into this thread and it is doing the same thing. It's driving me nuts. Sorry for the inconvenience. Could a moderator please fix this?

Sigh. I am a recent university graduate who is fluent in Mandarin Chinese, and right now I am absolutely unable to find a job. My goal is to work either in some government capacity or for an international organization. I plan on going to graduate school and focusing on China and the Middle East, so I've decided to pick up a Mideast language. I took a very brief Arabic course last summer and enjoyed it, but decided to go with Farsi because it was easier to juggle with my Chinese and I find Iran fascinating and beautiful. Lately I've been reading on some threads on other sites that studying Farsi compared to Arabic is pretty much a moot point and does not open the door to any real career opportunities, even though it's been said to be an in-demand language. Add on the facts that Farsi isn't even a UN language and Iran's population is significantly smaller than, say, the Arab countries. I've spent a ton of money on Farsi products and now I don't know if I'm wasting my time studying it. I absolutely love it, but I am out of college and am struggling to survive like a high school dropout despite being a bilingual honor student who graduated from a top university. So if I have to combine Arabic with Chinese to really get the ball rolling then I will damn well do it, even though Arabic is way harder than Farsi. My biggest fear would be to spend years studying Farsi and end up finding out too late that it was a waste of time and that I should have gone the popular route and done Arabic. I would really appreciate some other people's opinions though......do you think Farsi would make me marketable along with Mandarin? Or should I take the popular route and go with Arabic?

Edited by thevirginspring on 27 March 2011 at 7:15am

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Abrown
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 Message 8 of 10
28 March 2011 at 5:03pm | IP Logged 
My 2 cents (maybe not the best source):

Arabic is a very common language in the Middle East. Many people that speak Farsi, also speak Arabic. However, the reverse doesn't seem to be as true.

Even though you having already invested a lot in Farsi, it may be beneficial to learn Arabic as well. In your case, I would probably finish learning Farsi and then move on to Arabic.

A better question may be, what kind of work are you wanting to do?


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