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| tlevine Triglot Senior Member United States thomaslevine.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 7105 days ago 127 posts - 130 votes  1 sounds Speaks: English*, Mandarin, French | Message 1 of 8 24 August 2005 at 2:07pm | IP Logged |
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I have read that a person will know more French after studying Esperanto for one French for one year than he would had he studied French for two years. (This should apply for basically any language.)
My question: If I have already studied French for three years, will learning Esperanto help with learning French? What about another romance language like Spanish? What about a totally different language like Chinese? 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Darobat Diglot Senior Member Joined 7192 days ago 754 posts - 770 votes Speaks: English*, Russian Studies: Latin | Message 2 of 8 24 August 2005 at 2:39pm | IP Logged |
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I believe that unless Esperanto is learned as the very first language, it will not help you learn another language. The reason it helped people in the study you indicated, was because people were learning the grammar but with no irregularities, complications, or anything that a natural language would have. However, if you've already studied French for three years, you would already know these concepts, so using it as a "learning languae" doen't really make sense anymore.
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| mello Groupie Brazil mypolyglot.com Joined 7058 days ago 48 posts - 48 votes Speaks: Portuguese* Studies: English | Message 3 of 8 24 August 2005 at 3:17pm | IP Logged |
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I don't like the idea of Esperanto, and I quite agree with Darobat, when he said that Esperanto would not help you. And more than this, I think that learning Esperanto for helping learn another language can make you make mistakes, because, as you know, Esperanto is an artificial language that is formed with many other languages, not only romance languages but slavic languages and so on.
But there is another artificial language that can help you a lot with French and other romance(latin) langagues, it is interlingua. and its official home page is this http://www.interlingua.com/ I know many people that learned a lot many other [languages] just by learning it. Edited by victor on 24 August 2005 at 5:52pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| victor Tetraglot Moderator United States Joined 7322 days ago 1098 posts - 1056 votes 6 sounds Speaks: Cantonese*, English, FrenchC1, Mandarin Studies: Spanish Personal Language Map | Message 4 of 8 24 August 2005 at 5:55pm | IP Logged |
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If you have already started learning French, there's no point going to Esperanto if you are not genuinely intersted in learning it. I think the difference between the two groups is slightly exaggerated. If you can conjugate verbs, be able to modify words, then you're all set. Whether it's Esperanto or Interlingua as your stepping stone, it doesn't matter.
Let's say you're crossing the river, jumping on rocks. You have jumped 3/4 of the way, and upon hearing that there is a small rock on the side, you go back. Obviously, if you are genuinely interested in learning Esperanto, then this should not stop you from learning it. Edited by victor on 24 August 2005 at 5:56pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| tlevine Triglot Senior Member United States thomaslevine.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 7105 days ago 127 posts - 130 votes 1 sounds Speaks: English*, Mandarin, French | Message 5 of 8 25 August 2005 at 5:25am | IP Logged |
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I am interested in Esperanto to some extent, but I would rather learn a more widely-spoken language, so I'm not going to learn Esperanto. The main reason that I asked is that I was wondering whether I should buy L'esperanto sans peine while in France.
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| victor Tetraglot Moderator United States Joined 7322 days ago 1098 posts - 1056 votes 6 sounds Speaks: Cantonese*, English, FrenchC1, Mandarin Studies: Spanish Personal Language Map | Message 6 of 8 25 August 2005 at 8:37pm | IP Logged |
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Unless it's expensive, you can very well by that book as a reference, since you are actually interested in the language.
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| randy310 Senior Member United States Joined 7069 days ago 117 posts - 117 votes Speaks: English* | Message 7 of 8 26 August 2005 at 10:36am | IP Logged |
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[EDITED for inflammatory comments against Esperanto] Edited by administrator on 26 August 2005 at 1:06pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Darobat Diglot Senior Member Joined 7192 days ago 754 posts - 770 votes Speaks: English*, Russian Studies: Latin | Message 8 of 8 26 August 2005 at 10:52am | IP Logged |
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Well, you'd firstly need to get thousands more people to learn it. Then you'd need them to write literature in it too.
Randy, google "Conlang". You'll notice that creating a language isn't just an "over reactive imagination", but rather an art like painting. I do agree though that expecting it to become a common language across the world was rather far-fetched. Anyway, I believe this should be continued via PM if we wish, as to keep this thread on topic. Edited by Darobat on 26 August 2005 at 10:54am 1 person has voted this message useful |
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