anytram Bilingual Tetraglot Groupie France Joined 5669 days ago 85 posts - 89 votes Speaks: German*, Polish*, French, English Studies: Japanese
| Message 33 of 37 02 October 2009 at 9:18am | IP Logged |
The people in the video doesn't necessarily show Parisians being naughty. ;)
Most of those who are a hindrance in every day life in Paris are not Parisian - the people from the Province who do not wait on the side of the escalator so the busy people can rush by etc. Living in Paris has its advantages, but clearly also the "disadvantages" of living in a big city: tourists, events that block (parts of) the city and so on
In case of the video you linked to, the Parisian itself is the poor guy, suffering from the others - the fans (and Parisian supporters are not necessarily the most annoying ones).
I don't get some of the publicities though (ex. the Taxi one) and don't think they're interesting or funny...
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Aucassin Diglot Newbie United States Joined 5493 days ago 22 posts - 25 votes Speaks: English*, French
| Message 34 of 37 25 November 2009 at 11:21pm | IP Logged |
The videos are quite amusing. The one where the guy is stuck in traffic made me laugh out loud. I can admit
that it is gratifying to have one's prejudices reinforced!
I can only add my agreement to what has been stated: Parisians tended to be more abrupt in service-oriented
situations than I am used to, but the same can be said for some people in the larger US cities.
On my second visit to France I was on the train from Paris to Toulouse, sitting in the middle row of the car where
the 4 seats face each other, and had the pleasure of chatting with the other passengers. The husband and wife
seated next to me and across from me were from Toulouse and were telling how rude the Parisians were, but
how they loved to come to Paris once in a while because it was fun and there was a lot to do and see.
Then the gentleman turned to me and said "Monsieur est de Toulouse?" I was very surprised, first of all because
he used "la troisième personne," which is even more formal than "vous" and I didn't think anyone used it
anymore in daily conversation (except maybe shop assistants :P ) Secondly because he thought I was French. I
was very flattered when they were surprised that I was American. My accent can be pretty good, but something
always gives me away at some point. You can fool some people some of the time...
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cordelia0507 Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 5838 days ago 1473 posts - 2176 votes Speaks: Swedish* Studies: German, Russian
| Message 35 of 37 26 November 2009 at 1:10am | IP Logged |
The insane thing is that this thread is making a big issue out of "speaking French with French people".
Well who else would you be speaking French with? Germans or Chinese?
Being able to speak French with French people is the main reason for learning French, or?
(yes, I know about BE, CH, Quebec and the French colonies... that's besides the point)
I feel like starting a thread called "Speaking English with English people"!!
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Chung Diglot Senior Member Joined 7156 days ago 4228 posts - 8259 votes 20 sounds Speaks: English*, French Studies: Polish, Slovak, Uzbek, Turkish, Korean, Finnish
| Message 36 of 37 26 November 2009 at 6:08am | IP Logged |
Marlowe wrote:
I've read on numerous occasions that French people tend to be quite unforgiving when a foreigner tries to talk to them in French. Some seem to describe them as downright rude in this respect.
I would really like for this not to be true, because I see myself making a lot of mistakes if I ever go to France and try to speak the language. If there's something I genuinely despise, it's an elitist attitude to languages; it just ruins the whole experience, and when I get discouraged I lose the motivation to learn.
Far be it from me to make sweeping generalizations, so I hope some of the more experienced forum-goers can give their take on the matter. |
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I've never experienced rudeness when French with other native speakers of French even though it's not my native language. However I note that I'm also no longer a beginner in French and that I've usually met French-speakers outside the Francophonie. It may be that because they're on "alien" territory, these French-speakers are just grateful to use French with anyone regardless of whether it's with a native speaker or not.
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English? Diglot Newbie United States Joined 5474 days ago 3 posts - 3 votes Speaks: English, French
| Message 37 of 37 29 November 2009 at 6:04pm | IP Logged |
Great videos ... truly wonderful.
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