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| Juan M. Senior Member Colombia Joined 5903 days ago 460 posts - 597 votes  | Message 145 of 177 20 July 2009 at 4:02am | IP Logged | |||||
I'm not going to bother with this anymore. Read the articles I cited for a haphazard glimpse into the situation, as I'm not putting together a comprehensive collection of links depicting the matter in its entirety. I'll only state that this is not an isolated case. Danish unions have also allegedly sent money to the FARC. In fact, support for them has been widespread across Europe for many, many years. You can continue to live in your bubble and ignore what else socialism might mean other than the comfortable lifestyle you mistakenly regard as its blessing. I just thank God for living in a country that perhaps through chance and circumstance has become a bastion of Liberalism in a region increasingly dominated by socialist imperialism and authoritarianism. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| mrhenrik Triglot Moderator Norway Joined 6083 days ago 482 posts - 658 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, English, French Personal Language Map | Message 146 of 177 20 July 2009 at 4:12am | IP Logged | |||||
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I can't read Spanish. I read other articles on the subject though, or does the Spanish newspaper have information others does not have?
Allegations, that's no proof for condemnations of several countries. Europe supports FARC? Where does this come from? I've asked you to burst my bubble but seemingly you can't find anything sharp enough, a single district court case from Denmark isn't going to convince me that Scandinavia is made up of evil socialist countries who support FARC. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Juan M. Senior Member Colombia Joined 5903 days ago 460 posts - 597 votes | Message 147 of 177 20 July 2009 at 4:30am | IP Logged | |||||
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What can I say, you need to read Spanish because it is the language of those involved. Here is the original article by Moisés Naím on the Copenhagen Syndrome:
Colombia y el síndrome de Copenhague If you're genuinely interested in the matter, do the research and you'll discover the web of support in Europe for the FARC. Do you read French? A good place to start would be: Les FARC ou l'échec d'un communisme de combat : Colombie 1925-2005 Here is a recent article on the "chancellery of the FARC" where the warm reception they receive in Europe is detailed: La 'diplomacia' de las Farc By the way, I should clarify that the FARC were officially classified by the European Union as a terrorist organization, so when the honorable Danish judges decided not to convict their supporters, they chose to actively disregard that settled fact simply on the basis of their ideology. I should be doing some Russian rather than preaching to the deaf here, so I'll let it rest. After talking with some of you though, I take consolation in the realization that the evil deeds of some of your countrymen are not the result of malice but a more prosaic and universal failing: ignorance. Edited by JuanM on 20 July 2009 at 4:36am 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| mrhenrik Triglot Moderator Norway Joined 6083 days ago 482 posts - 658 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, English, French Personal Language Map | Message 148 of 177 20 July 2009 at 5:08am | IP Logged | |||||
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I read English and Norwegian, and understand Swedish and Danish.
Danish is also the language of those involved. Spanish is the language of one side which apparently has very strong and narrow views on this case. The first Spanish article you linked only briefly mentions the subject (checked with Google Translate). What the EU classifies FARC as should be unrelated, the court was Danish and if you ask me the entire concept of EU is barking mad. I'm glad we're not a member. Still, I don't doubt that FARC sucks, I don't question that some Europeans support FARC - what annoys me is that you use the moves of a Danish district court to call all Scandinavians Marxist supporters. That's just wrong. You can't just completely dismiss a complex ideology such as social-democracy by the actions of six Danes and a Danish district court. How do you connect this all to socialism? How does the actions of a Danish district court dismiss the entire idea of Scandinavian social-democracy? This makes zero sense. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Lizzern Diglot Senior Member Norway Joined 5913 days ago 791 posts - 1053 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, English Studies: Japanese | Message 149 of 177 20 July 2009 at 8:49am | IP Logged | |||||
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Just leave it, guys, he's already made up his mind about who we are. Those of us who live here can see the flaws in his arguments.
I sympathise with the situation in your country, Juan, although I don't really know or understand everything that's gone on. Just because our system isn't perfect and some people make mistakes, doesn't mean that our system doesn't work very well in many ways. It does. You'd see that too if you could see it for yourself. Don't accuse people of ignorance so easily, when all we've done is describe the reality most people here experience. Note that none of us have said "all socialism is good", just that ours works pretty well, that is all. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| mick33 Senior Member United States Joined 5928 days ago 1335 posts - 1632 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Finnish Studies: Thai, Polish, Afrikaans, Hindi, Hungarian, Italian, Spanish, Swedish | Message 150 of 177 20 July 2009 at 6:11pm | IP Logged | |||||
Edited by mick33 on 20 July 2009 at 6:13pm 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Jar-ptitsa Triglot Senior Member Belgium Joined 5902 days ago 980 posts - 1006 votes Speaks: French*, Dutch, German | Message 151 of 177 20 July 2009 at 6:59pm | IP Logged | |||||
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LOL!!!! and the aurora? I would like to see it.
ABBA's ok, but not all the time. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| patuco Diglot Moderator Gibraltar Joined 7019 days ago 3795 posts - 4268 votes Speaks: Spanish, English* Personal Language Map | Message 152 of 177 21 July 2009 at 9:31am | IP Logged | |||||
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Let's cool it on political discussion guys, otherwise the thread will be closed.
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