montmorency Diglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4830 days ago 2371 posts - 3676 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Danish, Welsh
| Message 1969 of 3737 29 September 2011 at 1:04pm | IP Logged |
Марк wrote:
montmorency wrote:
i.e. so long as the meaning is clear, we can remove as much punctuation as we want in
modern British English. This is certainly the message that has been both implicit and
explicit, in developments in English during my adult life. So I used to minimise them.
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Then full stops and especially question marks must be omitted. Questions have special
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I suppose carried to its logical conclusion, you could do that (unless this was a reductio ad absurdum). Most people would find this too much I think. The important point is: is the meaning still clear, and I think there was a feeling that a lot of commas could just get in the way, and those were what tended to go, wherever there was no ambiguity. A simple example would be that we always used to write commas in addresses and now nobody does. But also colons and semi-colons to some extent. Full stops and question marks are still too useful to be done away with I think. Of course, experimental novelists have written without conventional punctuation in the past.
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psy88 Senior Member United States Joined 5593 days ago 469 posts - 882 votes Studies: Spanish*, Japanese, Latin, French
| Message 1970 of 3737 30 September 2011 at 3:18am | IP Logged |
meramarina wrote:
You know you are a language nerd when you want to practice your languages, but that's simply impossible because you've just had emergency dental surgery. So to console yourself as you recover, you try to invent a language program for the half-numb, half-agonized, swollen and somewhat drugged language learner:
Wanna lern ta ffffpeeek a lankfish like Ffpaniff ur Ruffiin wiff da befft meffet? (spit blood) Fell dats too bat, gonna hafta wait. Dammit hurt. Fut up and go ta fweep till dwugs go way
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I think I can relate to you-I just had my third emergency root canal this past Monday, so YKYAALN when you can't decide if it is a good thing or a bad thing that you cannot understand the dentist when he makes comments to his assistant in Korean. You know the comments are not just random remarks, but do you really want to know what he is saying about the surgical procedure that he does not want you to know?
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meramarina Diglot Moderator United States Joined 5969 days ago 1341 posts - 2303 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: German, Italian, French Personal Language Map
| Message 1971 of 3737 30 September 2011 at 3:54am | IP Logged |
I got through a root canal once by thinking about accusative vs. dative prepositions in German. And it really hurt.
I couldn't do anything nerdy like that this time because I had IV anesthesia. Sometimes people say strange things when recovering - I don't think I did, but I'd be kind of proud of myself if I burbled or blurted out something in another language.
EDIT: In the first sentence I wrote pronouns instead of prepositions! That's why posting should not be done while under the influence of medication! Nerds don't let nerds post when on drugs!
Edited by meramarina on 02 October 2011 at 5:41pm
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JNetto Groupie United States verbumpopuli.blogspoRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4984 days ago 43 posts - 60 votes Speaks: EnglishC1
| Message 1972 of 3737 30 September 2011 at 4:21am | IP Logged |
meramarina wrote:
I got through a root canal once by thinking about accusative vs. dative pronouns in
German. And it really hurt.
I couldn't do anything nerdy like that this time because I had IV anesthesia. Sometimes people say strange
things when recovering - I don't think I did, but I'd be kind of proud of myself if I burbled or blurted out
something in another language.
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It is funny that you said that because I actually had a weird experience when I had a knew surgery: as I
was coming back from the anesthesia I was able to day a word in Portuguese! Detail, it is my native
language! Though I tried I could not find the word to say anything, it was as I had never known the
language. Very weird! :/
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LebensForm Senior Member Austria Joined 5052 days ago 212 posts - 264 votes Studies: German
| Message 1973 of 3737 02 October 2011 at 5:15pm | IP Logged |
meramarina wrote:
I got through a root canal once by thinking about accusative vs. dative pronouns in German. And it really hurt. |
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Haha, I go to the dentist next week.... this is something I will probably do.
I did something similar during a visit to my gynocologist, I got through that (it was a male doing it grr) by thinking about the dative preposition rhyme: roses are red violets are blue, aus ausser bei mit nach seit von zu (and gegenüber).
Oh and apparently, according to my ex bf, I speak German in my sleep, but what irks me is that I don't know if what I am saying is grammatically correct! And cf course he wouldn't know :(
Edited by LebensForm on 02 October 2011 at 5:17pm
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meramarina Diglot Moderator United States Joined 5969 days ago 1341 posts - 2303 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: German, Italian, French Personal Language Map
| Message 1974 of 3737 04 October 2011 at 3:05am | IP Logged |
You know you are a language nerd when . . . OK, you aren't so sure about it anymore, because your sister and her husband call you to say they've sent you a gift card for your birthday and you should go get yourself something nerdy . . .
. . . but what you hear is: Go get yourself something dirty!
You'd think with all the words I know, I'd at least recognize the word "nerdy" !
Just for the record, I'll take the nerd option, thanks!
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Kartof Bilingual Triglot Senior Member United States Joined 5068 days ago 391 posts - 550 votes Speaks: English*, Bulgarian*, Spanish Studies: Danish
| Message 1975 of 3737 04 October 2011 at 3:28am | IP Logged |
YKYALNW you get excited that your Spanish teacher is mentioning the subjunctive tense as your next topic!
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Levi Pentaglot Senior Member United States Joined 5569 days ago 2268 posts - 3328 votes Speaks: English*, French, Esperanto, German, Spanish Studies: Russian, Dutch, Portuguese, Mandarin, Japanese, Italian
| Message 1976 of 3737 05 October 2011 at 10:53pm | IP Logged |
Kartof wrote:
YKYALNW you get excited that your Spanish teacher is mentioning the subjunctive tense as your next topic! |
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¡Espero que disfrutes la lección!
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