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| Sennin Senior Member Bulgaria Joined 6034 days ago 1457 posts - 1759 votes  5 sounds | Message 1 of 4 24 January 2010 at 9:24pm | IP Logged | |||||
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I think some people will find this interesting:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programme s/from _our_own_correspondent/8474488.stm To sum up, the author thinks that French culture is over-hyped, "the factory which is the French cinema" produces only rubbish, and the French are stuck in the past. I can't believe I'm reading this on the BBC website... While I agree that not everything the French produce is of good quality, I think new British films are equally crappy. With the exception of BBC nature documentaries and Doctor Who, nothing is up do the standard of things made in the '80s and 90s. I fail to see the point of bashing the French film industry. The same is true for US films, the further back in the past you go the better they get. Nowadays only the visual effects improve and there is total degradation in terms of storytelling/script/originality. I'm not ranting about Avatar, but I'd say that's the the perfect example. ..so, do you agree French cinema is dull? Any counter-examples?... Edited by Sennin on 28 January 2010 at 12:48am 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| nadia Triglot Groupie Russian Federation Joined 5514 days ago 50 posts - 98 votes Speaks: Russian*, English, French Studies: Hindi | Message 2 of 4 25 January 2010 at 7:25am | IP Logged | |||||
The BBC writers are always ranting about smth, be it the newest Jane Austen adaptation or French cinema, and clamouring for smth they don't know what themselves. I agree with your view that it's like that with any cinema, English, French, Indian, Russian or American -- there are gems and there is crap. It's true that I enjoy older French movies more, like Angelique, Fantomas, Le Grand Blond, le Jouet, etc, but it may be just nostalgia. I don't really follow the modern French cinema closely. I went to a few festivals of French cinema in my city, but festival cinema is just not for me, I very rarely enjoy it. I went to similar festivals of modern English cinema and the only one that really touched me was "Pure." It's also possible that the author of that article just didn't "geddit". Some movies may be enjoyed tremendously by the natives and not understood by the foreigners at all - it's a cultural thing.
Which is why I didn't watch it... All the reviews concentrated on its great CGI which is not what I care about in a film... But I will see it one day when I have nothing better to do, I don't want to pronounce any judgement before I've seen it.
Amelie, Taxi...? Edited by nadia on 25 January 2010 at 7:27am 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| cordelia0507 Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 5838 days ago 1473 posts - 2176 votes Speaks: Swedish* Studies: German, Russian | Message 3 of 4 27 January 2010 at 11:46pm | IP Logged | |||||
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I don't watch French cinema a great deal, but those films I have seen are generally high quality. Nothing comes to mind right now.
This is just the usual English bashing of the French and it's a good example. They do the same thing back from time to time although some of the sarcasm would be lost on me. Both countries love to insult the other. If they were this rude towards India TV for example, it would immediately be called racism and they wouldn't dare taking it too far with certain other countries. Being this nasty is reserved for France only. I totally agree with your view on modern cinema though, Sennin. There is still the odd gem, but not many. I think that independent cinema is the future. I happened to have the same films that Nadia mentioned, plus also "Innocence", the filmatisation of a book by a great German author whose name is escaping me at the minute. [edit: Frank Wiedekind] Also two of Kieslowski's old films which are in French I think. One of the "Tricoleur" films from the 1980s and "La double vie de Veronique" which is in French and Polish. "Le charme discret de la bourgeoisie" - in French, but I think the director, Bunel is in fact Spanish. Edited by cordelia0507 on 27 January 2010 at 11:48pm 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| Sennin Senior Member Bulgaria Joined 6034 days ago 1457 posts - 1759 votes 5 sounds | Message 4 of 4 27 January 2010 at 11:58pm | IP Logged | |||||
I think there was a thread about French cinema on this forum. Just a few more titles off the top of my head - Villaine, Le Missionnaire, Dédales (this one is franco-belge), Chasseurs de dragons, Le premier cercle, Les rivières pourpres 1 & 2; I liked those, although I wouldn't call all of them masterpieces. In any case I can't see anything better coming out of British Cinema these days. Btw there is also an article about the new Russian "films industry": http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8470156.stm To the credit of US cinema ( not to be too anti-American, haha :p ) most of the new Pixar and Disney animations are great. The average comedy is total crap. Edited by Sennin on 28 January 2010 at 12:20am 2 persons have voted this message useful |
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