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Chung
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 Message 9 of 16
20 December 2011 at 4:39am | IP Logged 
Arekkusu wrote:
maeniwyn wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=99A0C61D8059FD96
*An entire Finnish audio/visual course uploaded onto Youtube

Anyone know where to get the transcripts?
(Kuulostaa Hyvältä)


Legal ways are from Ruslania or North Wind Books. The former sells the accompanying textbook through Amazon for $48 US + Amazon's shipping while the latter sells what seems to be a different edition for $40 US + shipping (the ISBNs don't match).
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mustaviiksi
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 Message 10 of 16
13 February 2012 at 11:43am | IP Logged 
Hi everyone!

I'm currently in the middle of developing a website dedicated to the beautiful Finnish language. The focus of my site would be the spoken language, which differs greatly from the written language. There's going to be real discussions between Finnish people about normal daily topics, PDFs (containing both written and spoken versions) and MP3s for download, audiobooks, perhaps some videos in the future.

Now I would love to hear your wishes about the content. What would you want to see, learn or hear? Any topics you want discussed? All suggestions are of great value! As a language enthusiast I know what I personally want from a language course, but do tell me your opinion!

The website is still under early stages of development, but I put as much of my time on it as I can.

Linda
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Chung
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 Message 11 of 16
14 February 2012 at 1:12am | IP Logged 
A structured approach would be good. I think that you could arrange this either by theme (e.g. colloquial speech as used in a social setting, as used when grocery shopping) or by grammatical characteristic (e.g. one lesson's focus would be the truncated forms of just olla, another chapter (or set of chapters) would focus on introducing the truncated forms of certain cases (e.g. -ksi > -ks; -ssa > -s); yet another would focus on the simplification of a certain diphthong or cluster (e.g. hiljainen > hiljanen; yhdeksän > yheksä))

The best presentation that I've seen on freely available material is in FSI Conversational Finnish since most of the dialogues are broken down so that you learn (and repeat) the lines of a dialogue in standard Finnish but a colloquial version is also presented so that one can get passive familiarity with colloquial register if not learn to use it properly. However it's still not focused on the colloquial language, and your proposed course could neatly fill the gap when done smartly.

Finn Talk and Kato hei! also teach colloquial language but aren't widely available and are quite expensive if you're living outside Britain and Finland respectively. Colloquial Finnish is the only other course that I know of that focuses on puhekieli and it is widely available. Yet as I've noted elsewhere, it's bogged down by irritating or distracting quirks and I now hold it up as as a model of how not to teach Finnish of any register to foreigners.
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Serpent
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 Message 12 of 16
14 February 2012 at 3:26am | IP Logged 
Chung wrote:
by grammatical characteristic (e.g. one lesson's focus would be the truncated forms of just olla, another chapter (or set of chapters) would focus on introducing the truncated forms of certain cases (e.g. -ksi > -ks; -ssa > -s); yet another would focus on the simplification of a certain diphthong or cluster (e.g. hiljainen > hiljanen; yhdeksän > yheksä))
that's how Kato hei is arranged:)

I've been thinking but I haven't got many ideas yet... Would be fun to do some translation/production exercises (standard to colloquial Finnish).
Also, since it's such a fine line between colloquial and dialectal, it would be good to have some info on dialects too, especially the things that are common knowledge regardless of where you are from and whether you'd ever say it like that yourself (the most obvious examples being mie, sie).
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Chung
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 Message 13 of 16
14 February 2012 at 4:16am | IP Logged 
Serpent wrote:
Chung wrote:
by grammatical characteristic (e.g. one lesson's focus would be the truncated forms of just olla, another chapter (or set of chapters) would focus on introducing the truncated forms of certain cases (e.g. -ksi > -ks; -ssa > -s); yet another would focus on the simplification of a certain diphthong or cluster (e.g. hiljainen > hiljanen; yhdeksän > yheksä))
that's how Kato hei is arranged:)


Indeed. So cue mustaviiksi's proposed non-commercial course as it teaches the stuff in a gradual way without plagiarism. :-)


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cathrynm
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 Message 14 of 16
14 February 2012 at 5:28am | IP Logged 
How about...

1. Structured lessons in text in English for beginner/intermediate, with English-Finnish-Spoken Finnish example sentences. Cover as many topics as you can come up with, pronouns, numbers, etc. Have someone read off all the Finnish in the lesson, and make that the audio component.

2. Unstructured audio lessons for advanced level. Make a podcast, get some men and women together and talk about interesting stuff as naturally as possible, all in Finnish. (Though invest in some decent microphones and make sure to avoid noise.) Then go back and make a phonetic transcript, one in standard Finnish, and one in English. Make a vocabulary list of unusual words.    

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mustaviiksi
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 Message 15 of 16
14 February 2012 at 7:38am | IP Logged 
Thank you all for your input. Very useful to know what you guys want to have. If any new ideas come up just let me know. Everything except the audiobooks will be free (and the price of the audiobooks is going to be very reasonable, don't worry).

I'll keep you guys posted about the progress of this project :)

Edited by mustaviiksi on 14 February 2012 at 7:40am

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feanarosurion
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 Message 16 of 16
12 March 2012 at 2:58am | IP Logged 
I did up this list a while ago:
http://how-to-learn-any-language.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?T ID=22300&PN=12
Almost two
years ago in fact. Hopefully it
can be of some use. I probably need to reformat it and weed out the dead links and such.
Either way I hope this is useful.

EDIT: Link formatting was not working one bit. Please remove the space in the link.

Edited by feanarosurion on 12 March 2012 at 3:07am



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