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Do Russians love their country?

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shadowzoid
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31 March 2010 at 3:51pm | IP Logged 
For example, Americans love America. Filipinos are quick to insult their country as
corrupt. Australians are neutral to their nation. How about Russians? and Germans?

Last time I posted this, people got into an argument about generalizations, and British
people were saying thins. All were out of topic. Keep to the topic please.

"All generalizations are false, including this one" Mark Twain
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dragonfly
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31 March 2010 at 8:24pm | IP Logged 
I think, they do :) Nevertheless, they are quick to call it corrupt (it's the truth, not an insult, moreover, it's about the people, and they are just part of the country). Russians can call their country any name, but they'll be very much offended if someone else says bad things about it.
Michail Lermontov put it thit way:
РОДИНА
Люблю отчизну я, но странною любовью!
Не победит ее рассудок мой.
Ни слава, купленная кровью,
Ни полный гордого доверия покой,
Ни темной старины заветные преданья
Не шевелят во мне отрадного мечтанья.

Но я люблю - за что, не знаю сам -
Ее степей холодное молчанье,
Ее лесов безбрежных колыханье,
Разливы рек ее, подобные морям...
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cordelia0507
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31 March 2010 at 9:43pm | IP Logged 
shadowzoid wrote:
How about Russians? and Germans?


"Garbage in, garbage out" as we say in the software industry.

You are not going to get any good answers to this question because the underlying assumption that people of these nationalities need to justify or explain their reasons for loving their countries, is flawed.

But tell me, why do YOU love your country despite its' political and economical aggressiveness around the world? (This question is about as relevant as the one you asked, and incidentally it has nothing to do with languages...)

Everyone loves some things about their countries, and dislike other things about it. This is true for all countries including the ones you mentioned.
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shadowzoid
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31 March 2010 at 11:20pm | IP Logged 
I'm talking about overall. There is no flaw. Want to know what I love about my country?
Nothing. I hate America.
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Siberiano
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31 March 2010 at 11:27pm | IP Logged 
Are you planning to move elsewhere?

Edited by Siberiano on 31 March 2010 at 11:27pm

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31 March 2010 at 11:33pm | IP Logged 
Oh dear. The USA has great nature though, excellent religious freedom and fantastic entrepreneurial spirit among the citizens.

But if you are looking for a sharp contrast to the USA politically then Germany doesn't really fit the bill and Russia has still not found it's new political identity; the people there seem disillusioned with democracy but are also well aware of the negatives about the Soviet Union.
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01 April 2010 at 2:45am | IP Logged 
I'm closing this thread for the same reason the previous one was closed: it is not related to language learning, and it discusses politics.

Shadowzoid, please don't start another thread on the same topic.

Eric

Edited by newyorkeric on 01 April 2010 at 2:46am



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