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| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6598 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes  4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 329 of 360 17 December 2014 at 12:36am | IP Logged | ||||||||
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Aw, I see. Well, that's what extra stars are for:) A new goal is always great, but it has to be realistic. Is reading more in English really a higher priority for you than reading in your weaker langs? :)
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| dampingwire Bilingual Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4666 days ago 1185 posts - 1513 votes Speaks: English*, Italian*, French Studies: Japanese | Message 330 of 360 17 December 2014 at 7:21pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
So what were the original rules? Was that 100 physical books? Was it still over 20 months (i.e. do you have a year left to run)? How many physical books have you read so far? Would you also have to meet a film target? Assuming you've already managed 40-50 books and have a year left, you can afford to slow down a bit and still meet your book target. Your writing (and so presumably your reading) is essentially native level. I don't recall seeing anything questionable in a long time. The real question is, would it help your English comprehension to read another 50 English books, or would your time be better spent working on some other language? Are you climbing this mountain "because it's there" or because you feel your mountaineering skills should be sharper? 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Expugnator Hexaglot Senior Member Brazil Joined 5167 days ago 3335 posts - 4349 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, Norwegian, French, English, Italian, Papiamento Studies: Mandarin, Georgian, Russian | Message 331 of 360 17 December 2014 at 9:51pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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Emme, you see? Why not cool down your ÜberChallenge impulses and join us in our multilingual journeys for the TAC?!!
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| Emme Triglot Senior Member Italy Joined 5348 days ago 980 posts - 1594 votes Speaks: Italian*, English, German Studies: Russian, Swedish, French | Message 332 of 360 18 December 2014 at 3:42pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
Basically yes, but I’m actually asking for confirmation in the Super Challenge thread. I think there were some provisions for very short or long books. I’ll get back to you with that.
I wish I knew! One thing’s for sure, though: the original challenge has achieved a certain mythic status in my eyes, so I’m not sure how unbiased I can be about the linguistic gains I realistically can hope for. They are probably marginal at this point. Would it be very objectionable to do the Challenge just for the heck of it (as the Americans say)? --- @Expugnator You know, don’t you, that at the end of the day it’s highly unlikely I won’t continue with the Scandinavian team, even if I haven’t officially decided yet? You’re probably not going to get rid of me so easily! ;-) 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Expugnator Hexaglot Senior Member Brazil Joined 5167 days ago 3335 posts - 4349 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, Norwegian, French, English, Italian, Papiamento Studies: Mandarin, Georgian, Russian | Message 333 of 360 18 December 2014 at 9:02pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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The thing is you could be at Team Russian too =D
It's more about opportunity cost; you'll be spending a lot of time for reading in English, which might be almost your native language's speed by this time, especially when done extensively, and you may improve your already high skills only by 0,01% while you could be reading loads in Germna and Swedish and then Russian and French and reach a high skill in those languages. I personally wouldn't do this, but then if this goal is meaningful for you, it can be quite motivating as a high peak of all your efforts here at the forum ;) 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Cavesa Triglot Senior Member Czech Republic Joined 5010 days ago 3277 posts - 6779 votes Speaks: Czech*, FrenchC2, EnglishC1 Studies: Spanish, German, Italian | Message 334 of 360 18 December 2014 at 11:33pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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If I remember correctly, The original final rules considered 100 physical books to be
too hard and that might dissuade people from reading longer ones. So we had 100 "book units", 100 pages each. that means the original challenge was 10000 pages and 100 movies over 90 minutes (or equivalent in tv series episodes and such things). There was a conversion coeficient for comic books and a few other things, if I am not mistaken. Your idea is quite inspiring and it reminds me of my ASCR (Advanced Super Challenge Residuals). I didn't finish the Advanced Super Challenge in time, I turned it into a long term issue. THe goal is double the original challenge. It is still quite demanding. But 100 physical books, that's much more, we could name such a pursuit "Emme's hoard" ;-) Well, do as you desire, but I think your English great and might perhaps profit more from some active practice as the progress from extensive input is very slow at the high levels, in my opinion. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Emme Triglot Senior Member Italy Joined 5348 days ago 980 posts - 1594 votes Speaks: Italian*, English, German Studies: Russian, Swedish, French | Message 335 of 360 19 December 2014 at 3:59pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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@Expugnator
Last year I let my enthusiasm get the better of me and so I joined four TAC teams only to abandon two by spring (the Advanced ESL one practically never started). If I’m dragging my feet, it’s because I’m still a little reluctant to sign up for TAC’15. Probably I need to mull over my plans for 2015 a little longer. Jumping the gun and heedlessly rushing to sign-up was a mistake that I don’t intend to repeat this year. @Cavesa We both seem to flirt with crazy challenges, you with the Swedish one, me with the hypothetical pursuit of “Emme’s hoard”. Are we really so linguistically mad? ;-) EDIT: typo. Edited by Emme on 19 December 2014 at 4:11pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Emme Triglot Senior Member Italy Joined 5348 days ago 980 posts - 1594 votes Speaks: Italian*, English, German Studies: Russian, Swedish, French | Message 336 of 360 19 December 2014 at 4:06pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
@dampingwire
So, Cristina confirmed on the Super Challenge thread that the original rules were:
Since May I've posted 40 books to the Super Challenge bot. Plus I’m currently half-way through three more (I know that’s a bad idea, but somehow I can’t stop reading books in parallel, even though I don’t enjoy it.) 5 are too short, i.e. less than 100 pages or their equivalent: The House on Mango Street, for instance, had 110 pages, but being made up of short chapters and with plenty of white space on each page, it seemed fair to only count 72 pages. With the rules above that makes 2 ½ books. 31 books were between 100-499 pages = 31 books 3 books were over 500 pages = 6 books 1 book was over 750 pages = 3 books If I’m not mistaken that’s the equivalent of 42 ½ books by the new (original) rules and I still have twelve more months before the Challenge is over. As for the film part, I’ve already posted 88 items. Since stand-alone films were a minority, with the bulk of what I logged being complete series, I’ve already watched more than enough for the original Advanced Super Challenge, i.e. 200 movies (either a 90 min film or two 45-min episodes each) in 20 months for those B2 or above. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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