akprocks Senior Member United States Joined 5286 days ago 178 posts - 258 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German
| Message 1 of 8 17 July 2011 at 4:52am | IP Logged |
As you all know the Latin for Dragon is Draco. However I came upon something interesting in my encyclopedia of the World's flags. Apparently the Dzongkha equivalent of 'Draco' is 'Druk', is this just a coincidence, or was the term 'Druk' borrowed from a Indo-European language?
Edited by akprocks on 17 July 2011 at 5:04am
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Hampie Diglot Senior Member Sweden Joined 6659 days ago 625 posts - 1009 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: Latin, German, Mandarin
| Message 2 of 8 17 July 2011 at 1:35pm | IP Logged |
You’d have to check that in a bhutanese dictionary, however, since they’ve had a lot of contact with Sanskrit and
since they’re next to India it’s not so that they’ve been totally untouched by IE-languages. Bhuddist or Hindu
scriptures all came in Sanskrit.
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Cabaire Senior Member Germany Joined 5599 days ago 725 posts - 1352 votes
| Message 3 of 8 17 July 2011 at 11:19pm | IP Logged |
In Sanskrit I find only ahī or bhujaṁgama (snake demon) and many words à la nāga (snake), which do not sound like draco or δράκων at all.
But the word dragon is probably related to a Sanskrit root: dṛś (look, δέρκομαι), because of the paralyzing sight of a dragon.
So I suppose it is coincidence, the same as when I saw today the Persian word for bad: بد ;-)
Edited by Cabaire on 17 July 2011 at 11:21pm
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vilas Pentaglot Senior Member Italy Joined 6960 days ago 531 posts - 722 votes Speaks: Spanish, Italian*, English, French, Portuguese
| Message 4 of 8 17 July 2011 at 11:51pm | IP Logged |
As far I know in modern Hindustani (Hindi-Urdu) the word "pagar" means "salary"
and in Spanish and portuguese the verb "pagar" ( and in Italian "pagare") means "to pay"
Funny coincidence or ancestral connection?
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Marc Frisch Heptaglot Senior Member Germany Joined 6665 days ago 1001 posts - 1169 votes Speaks: German*, French, English, Spanish, Portuguese, Turkish, Italian Studies: Persian, Tamil
| Message 5 of 8 20 July 2011 at 10:40pm | IP Logged |
vilas wrote:
As far I know in modern Hindustani (Hindi-Urdu) the word "pagar" means "salary"
and in Spanish and portuguese the verb "pagar" ( and in Italian "pagare") means "to pay"
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... or possibly a borrowing from Portuguese.
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vilas Pentaglot Senior Member Italy Joined 6960 days ago 531 posts - 722 votes Speaks: Spanish, Italian*, English, French, Portuguese
| Message 6 of 8 21 July 2011 at 1:48am | IP Logged |
You are right ! I found it now a site where are listed portuguese loanwords in Indian languages and "pagar" is one of them.
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Marc Frisch Heptaglot Senior Member Germany Joined 6665 days ago 1001 posts - 1169 votes Speaks: German*, French, English, Spanish, Portuguese, Turkish, Italian Studies: Persian, Tamil
| Message 7 of 8 06 August 2011 at 10:30pm | IP Logged |
vilas wrote:
You are right ! I found it now a site where are listed portuguese loanwords in Indian languages and "pagar" is one of them. |
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Whoa, lucky guess! Can you post a link to that site, please?
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Lugubert Heptaglot Senior Member Sweden Joined 6867 days ago 186 posts - 235 votes Speaks: Swedish*, Danish, Norwegian, EnglishC2, German, Dutch, French Studies: Mandarin, Hindi
| Message 8 of 8 19 September 2011 at 11:27pm | IP Logged |
If I find two words in different languages that sound rather the same and mean rather the same, my first theory is that the words are not related.
http://www.zompist.com/chance.htm, if you manage to get through the math, shows that there statistically will be loads of chance similarities between any two languages, related or not.
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