Register  Login  Active Topics  Maps  

Body Language & Its Origins

 Language Learning Forum : Philological Room Post Reply
Vos
Diglot
Senior Member
Australia
Joined 5566 days ago

766 posts - 1020 votes 
Speaks: English*, Spanish
Studies: Dutch, Polish

 
 Message 1 of 3
23 December 2011 at 11:40pm | IP Logged 
Rick Perry overdub

Mitt Romney overdub

I’m posting these here, to be honest, partly because I simply find them hilarious. However, a few questions and
thoughts came to me whilst watching them, and those have to do with body language.

Now clearly whatever they were saying when they were giving their speeches or talking to the public, wasn’t
anything remotely related to what the people have dubbed them over with. Yet they’ve taken and used the
emotion carried in the body language and facial expressions, to make even the absurd sound like, or atleast look
like, what they are saying in the videos could have actually been coming out of their mouths. Which got me
thinking, yes it’s pretty common knowledge that more than half of communication and the majority of its
emotion (so science tells me) is wrapped up in body language, but the interesting thing is that we don’t learn it,
nor do we consciously make an effort to employ the body as a communicational tool when we speak. It's more a
reflection of and an unconscious reaction to what we are feeling in regards to what we are saying/thinking at any
given time.

So when we are learning foreign languages, in the very early stages of our learning when we know very little and
can’t communicate too well, is our body language hindered, enhanced or unaffected when we try and
communicate in the early days of our new language? Hindered, because our self-awareness of not speaking the
language well may convey itself into our physical and emotional presence, thus focusing more on the not-
knowing rather than the conveying of what we are attempting to communicate? Enhanced, because as our
language skills are rather basic at that point, we rely more on our body, hand gestures and facial movements in
order to get across what we’re trying to say? Or simply Unaffected, does body language adhere not to whether a
language is known well or poorly, but simply is an unconscious, unspoken, primeval communication tool, an
evolutionary device in its own right, which has very little to do with the spoken word, and thus functions
autonomously, accordingly, and aptly at all times?

I find this area of communication/language rather fascinating.. it really is at the core of things. As soon as we are
born we communicate with our bodies and express needs via gestures, which perhaps explains why, at least to
my mind and what I’ve seen, why children who grow up with deaf parents can express themselves via sign
language much more effectively and in more detail, before the same level is reached in those children learning a
spoken language (I wonder if there is some science which backs up this or which at least has looked into it?). Or
perhaps it’s simply that the mechanisms involved in physical communication are less difficult to learn and wield
then those of the voice. Or that the ability and know-how of communication through the body has simply been
around for a much longer time than spoken language, and thus is more deeply rooted in our beings. Questions,
questions, questions...
1 person has voted this message useful



Cainntear
Pentaglot
Senior Member
Scotland
linguafrankly.blogsp
Joined 6011 days ago

4399 posts - 7687 votes 
Speaks: Lowland Scots, English*, French, Spanish, Scottish Gaelic
Studies: Catalan, Italian, German, Irish, Welsh

 
 Message 2 of 3
28 December 2011 at 9:57pm | IP Logged 
Body language is not as natural as you make out. It has to be considered as part of the target language -- I specifically look to imitate the gestures of native speakers when I learn.
1 person has voted this message useful



hrhenry
Octoglot
Senior Member
United States
languagehopper.blogs
Joined 5130 days ago

1871 posts - 3642 votes 
Speaks: English*, SpanishC2, ItalianC2, Norwegian, Catalan, Galician, Turkish, Portuguese
Studies: Polish, Indonesian, Ojibwe

 
 Message 3 of 3
28 December 2011 at 10:58pm | IP Logged 
Cainntear wrote:
Body language is not as natural as you make out. It has to be considered as part of the target language -- I specifically look to imitate the gestures of native speakers when I learn.

There may be some gestures that are specific to certain cultures, but by and large the differences are minor.

When motioning for someone to come closer, we equally understand it whether the hand is facing downward or upward. When holding up either three fingers or a thumb and two fingers, we understand that the person doing the gesture means "three".

R.
==


2 persons have voted this message useful



If you wish to post a reply to this topic you must first login. If you are not already registered you must first register


Post ReplyPost New Topic Printable version Printable version

You cannot post new topics in this forum - You cannot reply to topics in this forum - You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum - You cannot create polls in this forum - You cannot vote in polls in this forum


This page was generated in 0.5938 seconds.


DHTML Menu By Milonic JavaScript
Copyright 2024 FX Micheloud - All rights reserved
No part of this website may be copied by any means without my written authorization.