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| Camundonguinho Triglot Senior Member Brazil Joined 4748 days ago 273 posts - 500 votes  Speaks: Portuguese*, English, Spanish Studies: Swedish | Message 17 of 69 06 January 2012 at 1:06am | IP Logged | |||||
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He may be fluent, but his Portuguese is still at A2 when it comes to vocabulary.
Even his pronunciation is not that great (the pronunciation of open and close vowels is tricky for foreigners: gelo ''gêlo'' closed e; neve ''néve'' open e; a focused, dedicated study of lexicon is recommendable for the authentic accent). Needless to say, his intonation is way off, he speaks Portuguese as if it were an automatic reading voice (a robot). He may be more successful with Mandarin though. Let's wish him good luck! Edited by Camundonguinho on 06 January 2012 at 1:12am 4 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| sipes23 Diglot Senior Member United States pluteopleno.com/wprs Joined 4869 days ago 134 posts - 235 votes Speaks: English*, Latin Studies: Spanish, Ancient Greek, Persian | Message 18 of 69 06 January 2012 at 3:10am | IP Logged | |||||
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I like Benny's full-bore approach to learning a language. I think he's nuts, but I can't help but respect what he's
doing. He's aiming high, doesn't seem to be discouraged by falling short, and proving naysayers wrong. He's doing life as he sees fit, no small accomplishment. I want to see how he does with this. I want him to succeed. I've learned less from his language ability than from his mission-style approach. I've put it to good use for myself. As for his disdain for classes, I've got a suspicion it's part of his image. No classes. Lateral thinking. Real-world results. 6 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| fabriciocarraro Hexaglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member Brazil russoparabrasileirosRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4714 days ago 989 posts - 1454 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, EnglishB2, Italian, Spanish, Russian, French Studies: Dutch, German, Japanese | Message 19 of 69 06 January 2012 at 3:16am | IP Logged | |||||
I don't agree with you. I've watched many of his videos in Portuguese and though his intonation is indeed kind of robotic, his vocabulary seems great to me. B2 at least. Edited by fabriciocarraro on 06 January 2012 at 3:17am 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| tmp011007 Diglot Senior Member Congo Joined 6068 days ago 199 posts - 346 votes Speaks: Spanish*, English Studies: French, Portuguese | Message 20 of 69 06 January 2012 at 9:27am | IP Logged | |||||
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I don't want to be rude with all his fanbase but I guess the only way he could be able to do so is using the "FLR Technique" :P (I'm not saying FLR is a bad technique/method/etc.. actually I'd like to buy the mandarin's version cause I think that that own-phrasebook style could be useful somehow.. anyway...)
on the other hand, I did read Benny's book and well, it wasn't that good (there was no method per se but "motivation" -and dodging bullets) p.s. and yeah his conversational C1 definition is kinda [S]weird[/S] A2-B1 to me (mandarin chinese B1 in 3 months?.. yeah, right) Edited by tmp011007 on 06 January 2012 at 10:00am 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| hrhenry Octoglot Senior Member United States languagehopper.blogs Joined 5129 days ago 1871 posts - 3642 votes Speaks: English*, SpanishC2, ItalianC2, Norwegian, Catalan, Galician, Turkish, Portuguese Studies: Polish, Indonesian, Ojibwe | Message 21 of 69 06 January 2012 at 7:42pm | IP Logged | |||||
For comparison, the Italian university program I went through required me to pass a level C1 or higher. I think the bare minimum for any (non-English) EU university entrance is B2 or higher. R. == 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
 Fasulye Heptaglot Winner TAC 2012 Moderator Germany fasulyespolyglotblog Joined 5846 days ago 5460 posts - 6006 votes 1 sounds Speaks: German*, DutchC1, EnglishB2, French, Italian, Spanish, Esperanto Studies: Latin, Danish, Norwegian, Turkish Personal Language Map | Message 22 of 69 06 January 2012 at 8:13pm | IP Logged | |||||
For example for a university study in the Netherlands you need a C1-level certificate of Dutch or an equivalent document to get admission to the university of your choice. Fasulye Edited by Fasulye on 06 January 2012 at 8:13pm 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Michael K. Senior Member United States Joined 5728 days ago 568 posts - 886 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Esperanto | Message 23 of 69 06 January 2012 at 9:29pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Steve Kaufman made a response yesterday to Benny. They seem to be on less than friendly terms. I like both of them, but they seem to let their egos get in the way.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yoc9wxSg5KM Benny has his work cut out for him. There sure are plenty of skeptics that he'll have to prove wrong. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| numerodix Trilingual Hexaglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 6782 days ago 856 posts - 1226 votes Speaks: EnglishC2*, Norwegian*, Polish*, Italian, Dutch, French Studies: Portuguese, Mandarin | Message 24 of 69 06 January 2012 at 9:37pm | IP Logged | |||||
I've seen a lot of Steve's videos, including some not about language at all where he's talking about how much he likes the idea that people can discuss a topic and exchange opinions without having to reach a consensus. I think he just likes to disagree with someone and have a debate from time to time. Benny seems to be sick of it though. 5 persons have voted this message useful |
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