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| tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4696 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes  Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish | Message 377 of 1511 07 December 2012 at 11:28pm | IP Logged | ||
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SV: Idag var det stenkallt borta huset, så jag har bestämmt att sitta hemma och
skriver lite på sluttupsatsen. Det blev interrumperat många gånger. Jag kom att titta på två avsnitt av Bron (det är en krimi som är halv dansk halv svensk), och jag förstod mycket på svenska och lite mindre på danska (uttalet, som redan sagts, hjälper inte, men jag kommer att förstå enskilda meningar - inte hela dialoger). Vad det betyder? Det vet jag inte, men om jag hör mer danska kommer jag troligtvis att förstå mer (att prata dansk är något helt annat). FR: J'ai également étudié le Breton (mais je vais mettre à jour mon journal avec un vidéo plus tard, donc pas de nouvelles ici). Edited by tarvos on 08 December 2012 at 9:41am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4696 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish | Message 378 of 1511 07 December 2012 at 11:55pm | IP Logged | ||
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Pourquoi et comment j'apprends le
breton En cette vidéo je décris mon apprentissage du breton. Matériaux, raisons, principes, tout ça. C'est un peu lo-fi mais ça vous plaira, non? Venez partager ce video, je vous remercie! 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4696 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish | Message 379 of 1511 11 December 2012 at 11:01pm | IP Logged | ||
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SV: Jag har varit upptagen, så det finns inte mycket att berätta om, men...
FR: J'ai fait un examen (en français) pour les cours à l'AF et j'en ai confiance. Si je ne réussis pas, je m'en voudrai (à mort, probablement)... et j'ai lu quelques articles dans la magazine "Science et Vie" (à laquelle je suis abonné). BR: Bremañ e teskan brezhoneg. So yes, there's not much to report here. I have continued with Assimil every day, but I am busy with thesis, exams, and other kinds of crap that I pretty much do Assimil straight before I go to bed, and then some bedtime reading or bus reading. That is pretty much it. Edited by tarvos on 11 December 2012 at 11:01pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4696 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish | Message 380 of 1511 13 December 2012 at 11:39am | IP Logged | ||
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FR: Comme j'aurai pas de temps ce soir, j'ai décidé d'étudier la leçon de
révision ce matin (le Breton sans peine, bien sûr). Mais c'était un cauchemar; la dialogue était vraiment incompréhensible à la première écoute et il me semble que j'ai rien retenu (ce qui est jamais vrai, mais c'est un peu lourd, le breton, au moins maintenant avec tous ces autres soucis). Il faut dire que, normalement, je fais mes traductions sans le livre; j'essaie de les faire seulement en écoutant l’enregistrement, mais je vois de plus en plus que ça marche pas directement; il me faut vraiment toujours regarder le texte. Peut-être il vaut mieux revenir à la dernière méthode; traduire en utilisant et l'enregistrement et le texte, mais l'idée était d'améliorer mes compétences orales; ça sera dommage si je ne réussis pas. Je reçois déjà mal de pratique, comment savoir si je comprends la langue sans n'avoir écouté que des rares fois? Peut-être je vais ajouter une chose pour la deuxième vague; réécouter les enregistrements pour vérifier si j'ai tout compris. Et rappelons que je suis arrivé à la 42ème leçon; il me reste qu'une semaine avant de commencer la deuxième vague. Et donc, un synopsis de la grammaire de la semaine... Le Breton sans peine, jusqu'à la 42ème leçon Cette semaine a introduit une nouvelle série des mutations (qui se produisent après des particules verbales e et o) qui s'appelle la mutation mixte. Et je vous montrerai exactement pourquoi: comparez avec la mutation adoucissante; Les consonnes qui peuvent muter sont: K T P G D M B GW. Rappelons que pour la première mutation (les mutations ADOUCISSANTES), les mutations sont les suivantes (l'exception qui existe pour les noms masculins en commençant par k après l'article ar et le possessif hor (nôtre) mis à part) K --> G (kazhez (chatte), ar gazhez (la chatte) T --> D (taol (table), an daol (la table) P --> B (pourmen (promener), me a bourmen (je promène) G --> C'H (gouzoug (gorge), ar c'houzoug (la gorge) D --> Z (dizoleiñ(découvrir), ar vro a zizolez (tu découvres le pays) B --> V (bro (pays), ar vro (le pays) M --> V (malizenn (valise), ar valizenn (la valise) GW --> W (gwelan (voir), me a welan (Je vois). Mais pour la serie mixte, les mutations sont les suivantes: K, T, P ne mutent pas. Soyant déjà dures, ils gardent leur forme D mute en T (Bremañ e teskan (Maintenant j'apprends) Les autres consonnes font leur mutations dans les mêmes conditions que les mutations adoucissantes, donc G --> C'H, GW --> W, M --> V, B --> V. D est donc une consonne un peu erratique; elle ne mute pas après l'article; si elle mute autrefois, c'est en Z; mais après e et o elle mute en T. Les Verbes Maintenant je sais comment conjuguer tous les verbes au présent, mis à part gouzout (savoir). Ober et la forme de location de bezañ sont tout à fait regulier (base ra- et ema-), et on sait maintenant que les terminaisons sont les suivantes -an -ez - (la base verbale) -omp -it -ont (il existe également un impersonnel; ça se termine par -er) En plus, les noms des mois et des jours sont a) toujours masculins et b)commencent par une MAJUSCULE. Merc'her. Sadorn. Sul. Kerzu. Pour des noms qui peuvent s'appliquer à soit les hommes, soit les femmes, il suffit d'ajouter -ez pour former le féminin. Medisin (médécin), medisinez (la doctoresse). Veuillez noter également que si le métier soit écrit comme ça: paotr-al-lizheroù (le facteur, litteralement le gars-les-lettres), il faut remplaçer paotr par plac'h (fille) pour obtenir "la facteuse". (Et on peut construire des jolis métiers comme ça; un boueux est un "paotr-an-traoù- lous", un gars-les-choses-sales!) C'est tout pour maintenant. Quand je sais comment utiliser l'imparfait en breton j'aurai probablement le courage d'écrire en breton ici (mais pour ces petits extraits grammaticales je continuerai d'utiliser soit le français soit l'anglais). Edited by tarvos on 17 December 2012 at 12:05am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Maïwenn Diglot Groupie FranceRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4358 days ago 56 posts - 72 votes Speaks: English*, French Studies: German, Mandarin, Breton | Message 381 of 1511 13 December 2012 at 7:07pm | IP Logged | ||
Skrivañ a raemp brezhoneg, skrivañ a reomp brezhoneg ha skrivañ a raimp brezhoneg HEP AON! :) 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4696 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish | Message 382 of 1511 13 December 2012 at 10:03pm | IP Logged | ||
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Ezhomm am eus skrivañ brezhoneg, met n'ouzon ket skrivañ mat.
And grammatical things are subjects I already have troubles with when writing in French (and that's just possible for me to do because my grammar and Assimil are in French). Edited by tarvos on 13 December 2012 at 10:05pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4696 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish | Message 383 of 1511 13 December 2012 at 11:38pm | IP Logged | ||
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My Plans for 2013
As we all know, the best-laid plans are the ones that never come to fruition, which is why I don't make New Year's resolutions. But since I have given an overview of what I reluctantly like to call "achievements of some sort", 2013 brings a new journey with it. Because I have started my MSc thesis and also play in a band, I don't spend 10 hours a day on languages, but fortunately I have been lucky enough that I can use most of my languages in practical situations nowadays (the exception is Breton. I can use Russian, although I am not comfortable as I would like to be in Russian). Note that for the first three languages I will mention here, I doubt for two of them whether I will follow formal courses. I take private lessons on iTalki for Swedish (and she can also teach Russian, so that too), and I am continuing my courses at the Alliance Française, but I am not taking formal courses for any of my other languages. Furthermore, I plan to add a new language in 2013 (maybe even two!), depending on my progress. German I speak German. That is pretty much all there is to say about this language. I do not know whether you can call what I do "fluent" as I don't sound like a German, but I speak it nonetheless. No one will judge me for that, right? I estimate it's probably a solid B1-B2 somewhere; I make mistakes, but I understand everything that's said to me in this language. I will probably speak it once or twice a year. It will not receive a lot of focus, but it's there, and I can always use it. It's a language I have never seemed to forget even though it's a language I never excelled at. It's there. Goals: Maintenance of the status quo. A little less grammar chaos would be nice. French My best foreign language at this point in time. It's the only language in which I have also got some more cultural context than just tourism. It's a language I want to go on to achieve fluency in. I can speak it pretty much off-the-cuff but it has the same problem as my German - it's just not accurate enough. But it's more than sufficient. Goals: get to C1. Improve all-around in my accuracy of use. I understand almost everything, but I cannot yet reproduce it all automatically. This is the language I need the most apart from Dutch and English. This is a language I want to be able to use in business as well as my private life. Swedish I somehow got to a relatively comfortable level in Swedish in about half a year. I plan to continue on that path; I absolutely love Swedish. It is my favourite language when sung and it's extremely easy for me to read. I just love love love Swedish. Goals: Speak more Swedish conversationally and figure out how well I do in social situations. Russian I kind of speak Russian, but I kind of also don't speak Russian. It's a language I have spent a lot of time on but not yet achieved "comfortability" in. In other words, I cannot yet read Russian freely. I can speak it more confidently, though, but my listening is also terrible. As I hope to travel Siberia in the summer of 2013, I want my Russian to be at a level where I can function more or less independently. Goals: more conversational practice, a better vocabulary, and the ability to function somewhat independetly for travel purposes. Breton: I just want to continue this sideproject through the Assimil experiment. It's working all right so far, but I have no particular goals to go with it, except be able to understand the "workings of Breton". I have no particular goals concerning becoming a fluent speaker of Breton, although it would be awesome if I got the chance. It's a fun language to learn on the side and say "I have done this". I aim to become intermediate and keep the status quo at intermediate until such time as I can do an immersion in Breton, which will take a while. Latin No plans for a revival yet. Other Languages and Possible Projects I have two textbooks for Modern Hebrew, so that is likely to become a focus language after I finish Le Breton sans Peine. I, however, am playing and toying with the idea of many languages, including Icelandic, Tagalog, Czech, Portuguese, Greek, etc. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4696 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish | Message 384 of 1511 15 December 2012 at 10:20am | IP Logged | ||
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BR: Fellout a ran skrivañ brezhoneg amañ, met n'ouzon ket petra.
I haven't done much, due to focusing on exams and thesis writing, but I am still keeping up with Assimil. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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