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Dutch: ergens/nergens + preposition

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22 May 2014 at 11:47pm | IP Logged 
I remember in my grammar book the construction of pronomialising "preposition + iets" and
"preposition + niets" into "ergens + preposition" and "nergens + preposition",
respectively, i.e. "Reis je toch met niets?" into, "Reis je nergens toch mee?" and
correspondingly, "over (n)iets" -> "(n)ergens over", "door (n)iets" -> "(n)ergens door",
"voor (n)iets" -> "(n)ergens voor", etc. However, not frequently do I see the "(n)ergens
+ preposition", is there a certain nuance in this construction, or is there a different
reason why this is not used so often?
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23 May 2014 at 12:47am | IP Logged 
The construction would be "Reis je nergens mee?" Toch sounds very out of context in your
sentence.

I use that construction all the time, and I would consider the phrasing with "met niets"
to be at least completely non-idiomatic, if not outright wrong.

But your example would be more accurately translated as "Reis je zonder bagage?" or
something to that effect.

Dat gaat nergens over! "that's total nonsense/waste of time" (about a discussion), I use
this expression all the time...

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