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| anamsc2 Tetraglot Groupie United States Joined 4557 days ago 85 posts - 186 votes  Speaks: English*, Spanish, Catalan, German Studies: French | Message 17 of 225 20 December 2014 at 11:48pm | IP Logged | ||
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I vote for Gegenwart, although I also like Rapunzel!
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| Via Diva Diglot Senior Member Russian Federation last.fm/user/viadivaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4232 days ago 1109 posts - 1427 votes Speaks: Russian*, English Studies: German, Italian, French, Swedish, Esperanto, Czech, Greek | Message 18 of 225 21 December 2014 at 2:52am | IP Logged | ||
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First of all, indeed, every member of the team is qualified to vote (except for guardian angels if we'll get one or even more).
As soon we've chosen all possible names I want to make a poll (non-anonymous, just to be clear we don't have extra votes) and finally leave just one. patrickwilken, the way it could mean both that something is bad and that something is cool is also not really good. But then again - if the majority votes for it I'll have nothing against it. (not to mention I still opt for Gegenwart having said to myself "don't even think about offering Leidenschaft as a name - might be beautiful, but the etymology is a killer) Edited by Via Diva on 21 December 2014 at 2:59am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6595 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 19 of 225 21 December 2014 at 5:06am | IP Logged | ||
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Hehe I actually like Leidenschaft :)
In previous TAC's making the team names short was a big thing. Does it matter to some of us? 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Via Diva Diglot Senior Member Russian Federation last.fm/user/viadivaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4232 days ago 1109 posts - 1427 votes Speaks: Russian*, English Studies: German, Italian, French, Swedish, Esperanto, Czech, Greek | Message 20 of 225 21 December 2014 at 5:54am | IP Logged | ||
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well, I will have to shorten my log's name for something more than ~10 symbols excluding TAC'15 along the way, and if there's more or us better pick smth short.
___________ Start posting your personal contacts (whatever you want, though everyone should have a link to the log here) and your personal resources (and it's fine if they will be the same as of someone else, I don't believe it'll be identical anyway). You can either post here or send me a PM. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| patrickwilken Senior Member Germany radiant-flux.net Joined 4531 days ago 1546 posts - 3200 votes Studies: German | Message 21 of 225 21 December 2014 at 10:02am | IP Logged | ||
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My personal log: German: Massive Input in Berlin
Some German Resources Recommended Courses The best courses that I have heard about for German self-learning are "Assimil: German with Ease" and "Hugo in 3 months: German". The Assimil course should get you from A1 to B1 and costs about 75 euros. Assimil is a bit weak in grammar, and can be complimented with the Hugo course, which costs about 35 euros (doing the Hugo course without Assimil is not recommended). The publishers suggest that both courses take about three months to complete, but it is more realistic to expect that you will need about six months to work through the material. If you decide to do both courses you can alternate between doing a lesson from one course one day, and another course the next. Note: Courses are sold either as a book only, or book plus CD – you want to get the course with the CDs included. Assimil – German with Ease: http://www.amazon.de/Assimil-German-Ease-English-Speakers/dp /2700517504"> Hugo in 3 months: German: http://www.amazon.de/German-Months-Hugo-Language-Course/dp/1 405391561 Other paid courses Michel Thomas: Total German: http://www.amazon.de/Total-German-Michel-Education-Publicati on/dp/1444790684 Pimsleur: Comprehensive I (and II): http://www.amazon.de/German-Comprehensive-Understand-Pimsleu r-Language/dp/0743518365 Some free stuff Foreign Services Institute: Basic German course is the most comprehensive, but you might want to check out the other German FSI courses. http://fsi-language-courses.org/Content.php?page=German%20Ba sic Deutsche Welle has a wealth of free material for German learners at all levels. Can be a bit boring though. http://www.dw.de Firelang Firelang (Firefox extension for German learning: esp. useful as pop-up dictionary, and for exporting looked-up words into SRS). https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/firelang/ Writing Lang-8: lang-8.com (Keep an online diary in German that native speakers correct – in exchange you correct others' text in your native language – free and paid versions). Reading Graded readers Graded readers are books written with simple vocabularies for language learners. Some suggestions: Langenscheidt has a series of Deutsch als Fremdsprache books (e.g., the Felix & Theo detective series): http://www.klett-langenscheidt.de/Hoeren_und_Sprechen/Deutsc h_als_Fremdsprache/9337 André Klein has a series a short story collections written for language learners (e.g., Cafe in Berlin): http://www.amazon.co.uk/Learn-German-With-Stories-Beginners- ebook/dp/B00F33E3C0/ref=dp_kinw_strp_1 Black Cat graded readers (both book classic written for language learners, plus original books): http://www.blackcat-cideb.com/79-german-catalogue Parallel Texts Parallel texts have German and English versions of stories appearing side-by-side. Short Stories in German: New Penguin Parallel Texts ( http://www.amazon.de/Short-Stories-German-Penguin-Parallel/d p/0140265422). Parallel Text: German Short Stories: Deutsche Kurzgeschichten ( http://www.amazon.de/Parallel-Text-Stories-Deutsche-Kurzgesc hichten/dp/0140020403). Interlinear Texts Interlinear texts match translated words, but keeping the original German grammar - useful when starting to get a feel for how German is put together. Interlinear Books sells an interlinear version of Kafka's Metamorphosis: http://interlinearbooks.com/german. Graphic novels Graphic novels and comics can be easier to read than straight text and give examples of more colloquial and natural speech The bookstore Modern Graphics in Kreuzberg has a great selection: http://modern-graphics.de. Contemporary German literature Love German Books, blog written by translator Katy Derbyshire: http://lovegermanbooks.blogspot.de. For reviews of contemporary German literature. http://www.new-books-in-german.com. German Independent Publishers Hotlist: http://www.hotlist-online.com/die-hotlistbücher-2014. German Bookprize: http://www.deutscher-buchpreis.de. Deutscher Krimi Preis: http://www.krimilexikon.de/dkp. Dictionaries All you need is German-English. PONS German-English is great as a pop-up dictionary. Flea-markets full of cheap German-English dictionaries. Monolingual dictionaries, esp. Deutsch als Fremdsprache, are useful, but mostly only at B2. Online: Google useful, but not sufficient. LEO: http://dict.leo.org Dict.cc: http://www.dict.cc/?s=German Duden: http://www.duden.de Firelang: Firefox extension (see above) Grammar books To start reading you don't need much grammar. Either attend classes to B2 or read a short grammar book. I liked Essential German Grammar by Stern and Bleiler (1961), which is enough to start you reading – 5 euros on Amazon ( http://www.amazon.de/Essential-German-Grammar-Language-Guide s/dp/0486204227). Online: Google semi-useful – makes lots of mistakes. LibreOffice has a free German grammar function – but again quite limited. Lots of free grammar videos on Youtube. LanguageTool:Open-source grammar checker for LibreOffice and Firefox – http://www.languagetool.org Useful German grammar tests at: http://german.net/exercises News shows online Either Slow News at Deutsche Welle (http://www.dw.de) or more interesting die Zeit videos (http://www.zeit.de/videos). Tatort The long running German crime show can be fun. Watch it for free online at http://www.daserste.de/unterhaltung/krimi/tatort. You can also watch it live in about 50 bars in Berlin (http://www4.daserste.de/publicviewing). Audiobooks Audiobooks are very useful for developing correct pronunciation, and for forcing you to learn to read at a reasonable speed – listen along with the written text for maximum benefit. Audible (a part of Amazon) has lots of Audiobooks available: http://audible.de. Loyal Books has audiobooks for free, recorded by volunteers (pretty limited): http://www.booksshouldbefree.com/language/German. Radio Deutschlandfunk (DLF): Federal “foreign” news service, broadcasting national news and current affairs. Offers lots of very clear spoken German. Can be listened to on radio, livestream, or as podcast: http://www.deutschlandfunk.de Edited by patrickwilken on 21 December 2014 at 10:26am 7 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| patrickwilken Senior Member Germany radiant-flux.net Joined 4531 days ago 1546 posts - 3200 votes Studies: German | Message 22 of 225 21 December 2014 at 10:07am | IP Logged | ||
If you upload an image here http://postimage.org/ you can paste a link to the image to HTLAL. Choose the "Hotlink to Forums 1" link after uploading. Edited by patrickwilken on 21 December 2014 at 10:28am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| patrickwilken Senior Member Germany radiant-flux.net Joined 4531 days ago 1546 posts - 3200 votes Studies: German | Message 23 of 225 21 December 2014 at 10:19am | IP Logged | ||
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Some thoughts on German grammar
This seems to apply for German too: 
Who says German grammar is hard to learn? 
Or in other words:  Edited by patrickwilken on 21 December 2014 at 10:30am 14 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Gemuse Senior Member Germany Joined 4080 days ago 818 posts - 1189 votes Speaks: English Studies: German | Message 24 of 225 21 December 2014 at 8:18pm | IP Logged | ||
IMHO, the audio for the Hugo course is optional if you are using it in conjunction with Assimil. Ohne audio, the book is quite inexpensive, especially if you get it used. Assimil: I would recommend the newer incarnation of the course: http://www.amazon.de/ASSIMIL-German-Lehrbuch-Audio-CdS-mp3-C D/dp/2700580494 Both versions of Assimil are good, but I gather the latest version is a bit better. Edited by Gemuse on 21 December 2014 at 8:19pm 2 persons have voted this message useful |
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