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| Dtmon Newbie United States Joined 3589 days ago 6 posts - 9 votes Studies: Georgian, English* | Message 1 of 6 02 February 2015 at 12:23am | IP Logged | |||||
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I had to shorten the title. I am curious to find out which Indo European language outside of Europe( as in Persian or Hindi) is closest to a European IE language(as in French or Swedish). I am mostly interested in IE languages in the Romance,Germanic, and Slavic families. I am mostly interested in grammar but even languages that absorbed a lot of vocab interest me. Would I be correct in saying that Tajik fits this or is there something even closer?
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| robarb Nonaglot Senior Member United States languagenpluson Joined 5064 days ago 361 posts - 921 votes  Speaks: Portuguese, English*, German, Italian, Spanish, Dutch, Swedish, Esperanto, French Studies: Mandarin, Danish, Russian, Norwegian, Cantonese, Japanese, Korean, Polish, Greek, Latin, Nepali, Modern Hebrew | Message 2 of 6 02 February 2015 at 7:27am | IP Logged | |||||
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Well, the Tajik language is a variety of Persian, so it shouldn't be significantly closer to European languages than the
other two big varieties of Persian, Dari and Farsi. Tajik has more Slavic loanwords than the others, though. It might also be worth considering urban varieties of Hindi which have heavy influence from English. Then again, the "cheating" answer to your question would have to be Afrikaans. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Ari Heptaglot Senior Member Norway Joined 6587 days ago 2314 posts - 5695 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English, French, Spanish, Portuguese, Mandarin, Cantonese Studies: Czech, Latin, German | Message 3 of 6 02 February 2015 at 7:53am | IP Logged | |||||
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Answers that are likely not what yo're looking for:
* Afrikaans * One of the languages straddling the European borders, like Russian * A creole language with one or two European languages as its base 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| vonPeterhof Tetraglot Senior Member Russian FederationRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4777 days ago 715 posts - 1527 votes Speaks: Russian*, EnglishC2, Japanese, German Studies: Kazakh, Korean, Norwegian, Turkish | Message 4 of 6 02 February 2015 at 7:03pm | IP Logged | |||||
As for loaned vocabulary, it's not just Slavic, but also from Greek, Latin and other European languages, borrowed through Russian. However, having just skimmed Tajik Wikipedia's article on Tajikistan I think I've noticed about as many if not more loanwords from Arabic as from European languages - in fact the lede only has one European word, the abbreviation km. Although if you can read Cyrillic and are familiar with a couple of Indo-European languages it should be easy for you to figure out what the Tajik word for "is" is just by reading the first two sentences (you might also get an idea about the word for "name", but that one doesn't appear to be in its default dictionary form here). 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| robarb Nonaglot Senior Member United States languagenpluson Joined 5064 days ago 361 posts - 921 votes Speaks: Portuguese, English*, German, Italian, Spanish, Dutch, Swedish, Esperanto, French Studies: Mandarin, Danish, Russian, Norwegian, Cantonese, Japanese, Korean, Polish, Greek, Latin, Nepali, Modern Hebrew | Message 5 of 6 02 February 2015 at 8:07pm | IP Logged | |||||
Right, sorry.
You missed one: Осиёи "Asia," from the Latin, from the Greek. But the point stands, that Tajik (at least, the formal Tajik that one uses to write on Wikipedia) is not particularly full of European loanwords. If you go by the alphabetic and loanwords argument, you might look at Fiji Hindi, which writes in the Latin alphabet and has more English (and Fijian) loanwords than standard Indian Hindi (although not necessarily more loanwords than actual Indian Hindi as spoken in some places). It's a small language, though. P.S. If you were to measure by descent rather than surface similarity, there are actually only two candidates: the Iranian/Indian branch, whose members all split off from the European IE stocks at the same time, and Armenian. Edited by robarb on 02 February 2015 at 8:11pm 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| vonPeterhof Tetraglot Senior Member Russian FederationRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4777 days ago 715 posts - 1527 votes Speaks: Russian*, EnglishC2, Japanese, German Studies: Kazakh, Korean, Norwegian, Turkish | Message 6 of 6 02 February 2015 at 8:17pm | IP Logged | |||||
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