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Pedantic Pseudo Polyglot Plurals

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Gusutafu
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 Message 17 of 29
25 January 2010 at 11:23am | IP Logged 
Captain Haddock wrote:
That's where Japanese got its name for Jesus. (iesu)

That will actually depend on who you ask. The Orthodox in Japan write the name as イイスス・ハリストス, whereas the Catholics and Protestants do say イエス・キリスト.

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Captain Haddock
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 Message 18 of 29
25 January 2010 at 1:40pm | IP Logged 
Gusutafu wrote:
Captain Haddock wrote:
That's where Japanese got its name for Jesus. (iesu)

That will actually depend on who you ask. The Orthodox in Japan write the name as イイスス・ハリストス, whereas
the Catholics and Protestants do say イエス・キリスト.


Well, イエス is dominant enough to be the standard version of the name. Orthodox Christians must be a minority of
a minority, if that—I didn't even know they existed here.
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 Message 19 of 29
25 January 2010 at 2:06pm | IP Logged 
This is a fun topic, because I've always extracted a vain satisfaction from using plurals correctly and I continue to do so. :D
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 Message 20 of 29
25 January 2010 at 2:40pm | IP Logged 
Some funny ones are:
hippopotamus
plural: hippopotamuses, or hippomotami

octopus
plural: octopuses, octopi, or 'octopodes'
From what I've read, 'octopodes' would be the correct etymological plural form, except it's always non-existant in English. 'optopi' which is etymologically incorrect, is widely used, though the most common form is 'octopusus'. (though if you use the word you're likely to be corrected by a pedant if one's around)

medium/media
datum/data
criterion/criteria
bacterion/bacteria
-> None of the singular forms of these words are used much at all. I personally use the last two though.

It's a pity irregular plurals aren't more widely used in English, I really like them :(.
Let's all start using 'musea', 'fora', etc! (I already do often due to Dutch slipping into my Engish)
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Gusutafu
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 Message 21 of 29
25 January 2010 at 4:17pm | IP Logged 
elvisrules wrote:

medium/media
datum/data
criterion/criteria
bacterion/bacteria


Surely 'medium' is a very common word? By the way, 'media' seems to have become a singular word in Swedish, which confuses many people.
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 Message 22 of 29
26 January 2010 at 11:25am | IP Logged 
I'm curious, in which languages it is possible to use foreign plural forms. I guess, in an inflectional language, where endings matter a lot, using a different termination breaks the rules, and the word just makes no sense.

Edited by Siberiano on 26 January 2010 at 11:26am

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 Message 23 of 29
26 January 2010 at 11:32am | IP Logged 
Gusutafu wrote:
elvisrules wrote:

medium/media
datum/data
criterion/criteria
bacterion/bacteria


Surely 'medium' is a very common word? By the way, 'media' seems to have become a singular word in Swedish,
which confuses many people.


'Criterion' is reasonably common as well. Even datum gets used when you want to specify a minimal quantity of
data.
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Gusutafu
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 Message 24 of 29
26 January 2010 at 11:36am | IP Logged 
Siberiano wrote:
I'm curious, in which languages it is possible to use foreign plural forms. I guess, in an inflectional language, where endings matter a lot, using a different termination breaks the rules, and the word just makes no sense.


Yes, that is probably true. There are some interesting exceptions in Russian, though. Christ is Христос in the nominative, but the declination endings are added to the stem, so that genetive becomes Христа rather than *Христоса. The philosopher Lev Shestoff uses a lot of foreign words in his texts, without transcription, so he writes things like: если говорить о λόγος'е. Actually, I don't remember if he uses the word ending form of s or not.


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