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Jar-ptitsa
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 Message 9 of 128
12 October 2009 at 11:05am | IP Logged 
Woodpecker wrote:
I disagree with you all. I must admit, I'm not European, so there may be more going on here than I'm aware of. However, the reply struck me as quite rude. If he speaks English and an English-language news source asks him for a direct quote, why is there a problem?


Hi woodpecker

I like your nick :-)



Because English-speakers are imperialists with the English language and expect that all the world speak it.

Edited by newyorkeric on 13 October 2009 at 11:09am

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 Message 10 of 128
12 October 2009 at 11:13am | IP Logged 
What was the harm in answering a question in English? German elections have a much wider consequence than Germany alone and as a potential foreign minister it's surely mandatory to converse with outside media sources.

As has been mentioned his English may not be perfect and a politician's career can be ruined by a slip of the tongue but he nonetheless made a mountain out of a molehill.
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Woodpecker
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 Message 12 of 128
12 October 2009 at 11:51am | IP Logged 
Hubei_China wrote:


I note that you are a native English speakers. You just don't get it do you? You cannot fathom why many of us non-native English speakers find his response so appropriate.


Perhaps you should try to explain, rather than merely informing me that I'm too feeble-minded to understand.

If, as the foreign minister of my country, I was asked a question by a media outlet from another country, and they requested a quote in the language of that country, and I felt I had a reasonable command of the language in question, I would certainly humor them. Why not? It's good politics (I mean, come on, he's the FOREIGN minister), it's polite, it makes sense (especially for a television audience), and it would help me connect with the people of the country in question more directly. And if I didn't have a reasonable command of the language in question, I would say so. Talking down to the reporter, indeed almost mocking him, was completely unnecessary, in my opinion. Though apparently he did score a lot of cheap political points with fellow Europeans...

In response to the linguistic imperialism point above, well, it's true that English is the current lingua franca (oh, the irony) of the international community. But it's not like we executed some grand master plan to achieve that. And as someone who's spent some time in French West Africa, I would suggest that we leave imperialism in general out of this. Everyone of European stock bears some ancestral guilt.
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 Message 13 of 128
12 October 2009 at 12:01pm | IP Logged 
Woodpecker wrote:
Hubei_China wrote:


I note that you are a native English speakers. You just don't get it do you? You cannot
fathom why many of us non-native English speakers find his response so appropriate.


Perhaps you should try to explain, rather than merely informing me that I'm too feeble-
minded to understand.

If, as the foreign minister of my country, I was asked a question by a media outlet
from another country, and they requested a quote in the language of that country, and I
felt I had a reasonable command of the language in question, I would certainly humor
them. Why not? It's good politics (I mean, come on, he's the FOREIGN minister), it's
polite, it makes sense (especially for a television audience), and it would help me
connect with the people of the country in question more directly. And if I didn't have
a reasonable command of the language in question, I would say so. Talking down to the
reporter, indeed almost mocking him, was completely unnecessary, in my opinion. Though
apparently he did score a lot of cheap political points with fellow Europeans...

In response to the linguistic imperialism point above, well, it's true that English is
the current lingua franca (oh, the irony) of the international community. But it's not
like we executed some grand master plan to achieve that. And as someone who's spent
some time in French West Africa, I would suggest that we leave imperialism in general
out of this. Everyone of European stock bears some ancestral guilt.


Well, since I'm not of European stock I relish the fact that I don't have any of that
guilt ^_^

but besides that I do feel that there is a justification for speaking in German, on
German soil, in a German press conference... It's a bit arrogant to send monolingual
English speaking journalists to other countries to report, especially to other EU
countries in the light that German is as much an official language of the Union as
English is...
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jimbo
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 Message 14 of 128
12 October 2009 at 12:40pm | IP Logged 
Jar-ptitsa wrote:
It's the fault of the BBC. How stupid that a monolingual English (or at least doesn't speak
German) is in a German conference. How can he report the other questions and responses, which were in German?


I think that was part of the point. He had apparently just answered the same question in German.
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Jar-ptitsa
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 Message 15 of 128
12 October 2009 at 12:40pm | IP Logged 
Woodpecker wrote:

If, as the foreign minister of my country, I was asked a question by a media outlet from another country, and they requested a quote in the language of that country, and I felt I had a reasonable command of the language in question, I would certainly humor them. Why not?


When it happened that the US foreign minister replied without preparation a question in a conference in a foreign language?


Quote:


In response to the linguistic imperialism point above, well, it's true that English is the current lingua franca (oh, the irony) of the international community. But it's not like we executed some grand master plan to achieve that. And as someone who's spent some time in French West Africa, I would suggest that we leave imperialism in general out of this. Everyone of European stock bears some ancestral guilt.


"(oh, the irony)" I don't understand

"French West Africa" - I didn't see a french wrote on this thread.

Anyway, yes, imperialism in Africa was disgusting, and in all the world. It doesn't justify the English language's imperialism. I havne't ancestral guilt because I didn't those things.
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Jar-ptitsa
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 Message 16 of 128
12 October 2009 at 12:42pm | IP Logged 
jimbo wrote:
Jar-ptitsa wrote:
It's the fault of the BBC. How stupid that a monolingual English (or at least doesn't speak
German) is in a German conference. How can he report the other questions and responses, which were in German?


I think that was part of the point. He had apparently just answered the same question in German.


yes, exactly - I think this is part of the point.


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