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| Arekkusu Hexaglot Senior Member Canada bit.ly/qc_10_lec Joined 5382 days ago 3971 posts - 7747 votes  Speaks: English, French*, GermanC1, Spanish, Japanese, Esperanto Studies: Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Estonian | Message 1 of 5 01 March 2011 at 8:22pm | IP Logged | ||
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Anyone have interesting information on bidialectism?
I'm particularly interested in the context of Japanese, where most people from outside the Tokyo area find themselves speaking Standard Japanese whereas their native accent/dialect differs. A friend's 3 Japanese friends came to visit lately and I asked them if they spoke to eachother in their native dialects (they all came from different areas). Surprisingly, this seemed to be a question they'd never even considered. They all use standard Japanese, admitting that their native accent would likely come out if they spoke with people from their hometown, but that they never actually think about it. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| tractor Tetraglot Senior Member Norway Joined 5454 days ago 1349 posts - 2292 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, English, Spanish, Catalan Studies: French, German, Latin | Message 2 of 5 01 March 2011 at 8:37pm | IP Logged | ||
I have a book called An Introduction to Sociolinguistics by Janet Holmes, that, as far as I remember, deals with such phenomena among others. I haven't read it for many years, so I don't remember if it dealt with dialect switching in Japan in particular. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| jazzboy.bebop Senior Member Norway norwegianthroughnove Joined 5419 days ago 439 posts - 800 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Norwegian | Message 3 of 5 01 March 2011 at 8:43pm | IP Logged | ||
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People will usually change their speech and behaviour dependent on the situation they
find themselves in and I suspect it is not a very conscious process for most people. When with people from other parts of the country you usually try to speak in a more "standard" way, especially if you speak a strong dialect. I come from Glasgow in Scotland and when we speak in a strong version of the dialect to those not used to it, it can cause plenty of confusion and seem pretty impenetrable. With some of my friends I will speak with quite a strong version of the dialect and with other people I will drastically change my speech to a more standard form. I'm well aware of how my speech patterns change depending on who I am with but I tend to think a lot about what I say when I speak but for a long while I didn't really think about the fact I was doing it all. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
 Iversen Super Polyglot Moderator Denmark berejst.dk Joined 6704 days ago 9078 posts - 16473 votes Speaks: Danish*, French, English, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, Swedish, Esperanto, Romanian, Catalan Studies: Afrikaans, Greek, Norwegian, Russian, Serbian, Icelandic, Latin, Irish, Lowland Scots, Indonesian, Polish, Croatian Personal Language Map | Message 4 of 5 02 March 2011 at 12:04am | IP Logged | ||
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If people dared speak their native dialects to other native speakers it might be easier for everybody to adapt to small differences, and the result would be much more interesting and varied. But alas, the world is going towards uniformization - where the important thing earlier was to have an army and a fleet, it now seems that the important thing is to dominate the TV stations in a country. That being said I have to admit that I don't speak a clear dialect myself, but some bland version of standard Danish.
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| Segata Triglot Groupie Germany Joined 5172 days ago 64 posts - 125 votes Speaks: German*, Japanese, English Studies: Korean, Esperanto | Message 5 of 5 02 March 2011 at 12:35am | IP Logged | ||
Chances are they could not understand each other very well if they were to talk to each other in their native dialects. If one of his friends is from, say, Aomori and another one is from Kyushu.. well.. let's just say they would sound very different. Edit: There's a few videos that show how dialects from northern Japan sound like. Judge for yourself. I'm not entirely sure how it is for native speakers, but I have to concentrate.. a lot.. in order to make any sense of this. Edited by Segata on 02 March 2011 at 8:52am 1 person has voted this message useful |
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