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| Raчraч Ŋuɲa Triglot Senior Member New Zealand Joined 5819 days ago 154 posts - 233 votes  Speaks: Bikol languages*, Tagalog, EnglishC1 Studies: Spanish, Russian, Japanese | Message 1 of 26 23 December 2010 at 5:24am | IP Logged | ||
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Has anyone seen this yet?
China bars English Words. (Sorry, link doesn't work properly.) http://www.breitbart.com/article.php? id=CNG.654b1c73fa4c9ee6252a235808d79ee4.a1&show_article=1 Edited by Raчraч Ŋuɲa on 23 December 2010 at 5:28am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| seldnar Senior Member United States Joined 7133 days ago 189 posts - 287 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Mandarin, French, Greek | Message 2 of 26 23 December 2010 at 6:14am | IP Logged | ||
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I have heard talk about this before. I'm sure not sure though how it would make Mandarin
harder. It affects the use of foreign words in Chinese-language publications; it doesn't affect the Chinese-language in any great way. Abbreviations such as WTO, ASEAN, will be have to have Chinese translations after them (frankly, this would be a boon to me who is not always aware of what some of the abbreviations mean). As for Western names I've seldom seen them printed in newspapers and magazines. Rather, I've most often seen transliterations of the names using hanzi. I can be slow at times (well, most of the time). Could you explain how this change would make Chinese a lot harder? 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Nguyen Senior Member Vietnam Joined 5094 days ago 109 posts - 195 votes Speaks: Vietnamese | Message 3 of 26 23 December 2010 at 8:46am | IP Logged | ||
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I don't think iy will make much difference outside of China. It will affect their telecommunications significantly if they decide to go through with it. I couldn't read the article though.
I suppose they will have to invent a whole bunch of new characters I would assume. It seems silly to do this given the poor literacy level in China even today. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| zerothinking Senior Member Australia Joined 6373 days ago 528 posts - 772 votes Speaks: English* | Message 4 of 26 23 December 2010 at 9:33am | IP Logged | ||
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They can only control the 'official' language. They can't control what the people
actually use. The French tried to do this but everyone says 'email' and not 'courrier electronique'. You can't plan and control a language that people use. It's just dumb to think you can. Foreign words entering vocabulary is a natural process. You can force people at gun point not to publish a book with English loan words but you can't stop people from speaking a certain way. I'd also like to know how they are going to scour every last Chinese website and force them to change everything. Chinese government have a god complex. They are a stone throw away from a totalitarian dictatorship but they aren't omnipotent. Edited by zerothinking on 23 December 2010 at 9:37am 8 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| irrationale Tetraglot Senior Member China Joined 6051 days ago 669 posts - 1023 votes 2 sounds Speaks: English*, Spanish, Mandarin, Tagalog Studies: Ancient Greek, Japanese | Message 5 of 26 23 December 2010 at 9:36am | IP Logged | ||
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It doesn't really make much of a difference, but I support it totally. I respect a culture who would rather create new words than adopt English ones. That's hardcore and attracts me even more to that language. The more foreign words I have to learn, the better.
Edited by irrationale on 23 December 2010 at 9:37am 4 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Nguyen Senior Member Vietnam Joined 5094 days ago 109 posts - 195 votes Speaks: Vietnamese | Message 6 of 26 23 December 2010 at 9:49am | IP Logged | ||
Maybe great from a language learning perspective, but, I doubt that a Manager in the Aerospace or Medical Field would feel the same way. 3 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| CheeseInsider Bilingual Diglot Senior Member Canada Joined 5123 days ago 193 posts - 238 votes Speaks: English*, Mandarin* Studies: French, German | Message 7 of 26 25 December 2010 at 6:58am | IP Logged | ||
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Hmph, I've never appreciated hearing or reading English words used in Chinese. Good for them.
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| chucknorrisman Triglot Senior Member United States Joined 5449 days ago 321 posts - 435 votes Speaks: Korean*, English, Spanish Studies: Russian, Mandarin, Lithuanian, French | Message 8 of 26 25 December 2010 at 4:11pm | IP Logged | ||
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I like this move. I often cringe at English words mixed in Chinese. This won't affect the colloquial language as much it does the official language, but at least it's worth a try. As long as it doesn't affect the English education in China adversely, it doesn't seem like it would produce much harm.
I just wish the Chinese wouldn't translate the proper nouns, though, and leave them in their original alphabet or develop a way to transcribe them better. Edited by chucknorrisman on 25 December 2010 at 4:15pm 4 persons have voted this message useful |
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