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| indiana83 Groupie United States ipracticecanto.wordp Joined 5491 days ago 92 posts - 121 votes  Speaks: English* Studies: Cantonese, Italian | Message 9 of 14 03 January 2011 at 8:37pm | IP Logged | ||
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Australia's SBS radio has a podcast for many languages, including Cantonese. As said about songs, you might want to avoid news segments, since they are reading and use a different set of vocabulary. But children's shows or cooking shows will be good to listen to.
http://www.sbs.com.au/chinese/program/cantonese-radio?siteLa nguage=en_AU RTHK also streams their stations and has podcasts of some shows (both audio and video): http://www.rthk.org.hk/index_eng.htm http://podcast.rthk.hk/podcast/ (don't look at the English version of the podcast website, as it only contains the podcasts that are in English) Here are my favorite cartoons: http://www.veoh.com/collection/hxhcanto http://www.veoh.com/group/ATASHINCHI2008TVB 4 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| marcelobrasil Diglot Groupie Brazil acantoneseblog. Joined 5076 days ago 44 posts - 65 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, English Studies: French, Cantonese | Message 10 of 14 07 January 2011 at 1:12am | IP Logged | ||
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As it was mentioned before, I think that staying way from songs is a good rule of thumb - and I say that from experience. I tried to add some cantopop songs into my learning and it didn't work out very well. It's not that you won't learn anything. However, the amount of time you will spend trying to figure out the meaning of the song, looking words up in the dictionary, memorizng all that stuff and so on will make this type of study counterproductive, because in the end you will see that you will only be able to use 4 or 5 words you learned in the song, since the rest will be pretty much written Cantonese.
If you are an advanced learner and you want to learn how to read texts, using songs may be useful. The only type of Cantonese music that I can think of that uses spoken language is rap, so that may be beneficial in this regard , and on top of that you will learn some pretty badass rhymes! But seriously, songs are not very useful , at least in the beginning. Treat them more as a reward for your study rather then as the study itself, or as some sort of thing you wanna do for relaxing a little bit while still learning some Cantonese here and there. And as for the tips, find good books to study and study material in general. When I first started learning I thought that there was nearly no material for Cantonese learners. If you compare it with Mandarin, French , Spanish and other popular languages of course there's much less stuff out there. Still, there are good Cantonese books, they are just more difficult to find. You mentioned TYS. That's a good one. There's another good one called '' No Sweat Cantonese", by Amy Leung. It's more of a phrase book , though it has some dialogues , and it is very good to build basic vocabulary. Another good phrase book is " Cantonese Express", by Betty Hung. FSI has also a Cantonese course available at http://fsi-language-courses.org/Content.php?page=Cantonese I admit that I haven't actually used this course, so I don't know exactly if it's good, but I've taken a look and it seems decent. There's also another excelent book called " Intermediate Cantonese : Themes for listening and Speaking", published by Greenwood Press, with dozes and dozens of dialogues. And there's some stuff on the web too : cantonese.hk, cantophilia. com. cantostories.podbean, cantoneseclass101.com,etc. You can also watch tv programas on youtube and try to figure them out using cantodictonary. I've been doing that incessantly in the last month and I've been learning a great deal by doing that. My vocabulary has been increasing drastically and I am finally starting to move from a beginner to a lower intermediate level. I can tell you with all honesty : when I started learning Cantonese I had trouble to find good material - and that's a common complaint for Cantonese learners - but now my problem is the opposite. I can't find the time to go through all this different material, especially now that there are some good sites devoted to Cantonese learners. Edited by marcelobrasil on 12 January 2011 at 10:12pm 3 persons have voted this message useful | |||
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I've just found a list with some Cantonese books :
http://www.ilc.cuhk.edu.hk/echinese2/re_doc/re_Canto_foreign ers.pdf 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Cowlegend999 Groupie CanadaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5145 days ago 72 posts - 94 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Mandarin, Cantonese | Message 12 of 14 07 January 2011 at 1:34am | IP Logged | ||
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Ok thank you very much for your help everyone!! I really appreciate it :)
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| edwin Triglot Senior Member Canada towerofconfusi&Registered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6465 days ago 160 posts - 183 votes 9 sounds Speaks: Cantonese*, English, Mandarin Studies: French, Spanish, Portuguese | Message 13 of 14 12 January 2011 at 5:57pm | IP Logged | ||
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Cowlegend999, you live in Canada right? Unless you live in a small town, there should be Cantonese TV channels, supermarkets and stores, no?
For beginner, I would not recommend 'random' listening. Make sure you know what you are listening to (or at least most of it), and repeat listening to it until you get bored. As Marcelo mentioned, there are tons of Cantonese learning materials on the net nowadays. Have you tried THE Cantonese learners forums? http://www.cantonese.sheik.co.uk/ 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Ari Heptaglot Senior Member Norway Joined 6583 days ago 2314 posts - 5695 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English, French, Spanish, Portuguese, Mandarin, Cantonese Studies: Czech, Latin, German | Message 14 of 14 13 January 2011 at 8:41am | IP Logged | ||
This is true for most but not all songs. Sam Hui is a very popular (but now quite out-of-date) singer who uses real colloquial Cantonese in his music. You'll find a lot of Cantonese in rap, too, like the band "LMF". Also, please don't call the written Standard Chinese "written Cantonese". There's plenty of written Cantonese in HK newspapers, pocket books, magazines, cartoons and on the Internet, and most SMS text messages between HK Cantonese speakers (and many Cantonese on the mainland, too) is in written Cantonese. The Standard Chinese you find in books and the like is not Cantonese, it's a standardized written language closely based on spoken Mandarin. Written Cantonese has a history dating back to at least the Ming Dynasty and is gaining growing acceptance in HK. As for Canto resources, the best way to learn, in my experience, is to get some Stephen Chow movies and watch them while reading the scripts you find here. Unfortunately, that page is in simplified characters. If you're lucky, you might be able to find some VCDs of movies with Cantonese and English subtitles at the same time. Those, too, make excellent study materials. At any rate, Stephen Chow is the king of great Cantonese and studying his way with words will make your Cantonese very impressive. 3 persons have voted this message useful |
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