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marcelobrasil Diglot Groupie Brazil acantoneseblog. Joined 5080 days ago 44 posts - 65 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, English Studies: French, Cantonese
| Message 9 of 12 10 January 2011 at 11:09pm | IP Logged |
Sun_Wukong wrote:
Oh, I thought you had originally asked for audio! Desculpa, burrice minha. Transcripts
you can find easily, but are simplified characters ok?
But back to what I was (uselessly) saying, an exception: there are those famous 1991 ones
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There's no problem if the transcripts are in simplified characters. I remember I once came across a site that converted simplified characters into traditional ones. I just need to find it...
I wonder if there's a site in Chinese like this one:
http://www.americanrhetoric.com/
That's exactly what I am looking for. And where can I find these transcripts easily? My Chinese reading abilities are limited, so it's difficult for me to look for them using Chinese google. I tried to find English sites that had such transcripts, but all I could find were English translations with no Chinese transcript.
By the way, what are those famous 1991 speeches that you refer to? Some speech delivered by a Chinese leader about the fall of USSR?
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| michau Tetraglot Groupie Norway lang-8.com/member/49 Joined 6231 days ago 86 posts - 135 votes Speaks: Polish*, English, NorwegianC1, Mandarin Studies: Spanish, Sign Language Studies: Burmese, Toki Pona, Greenlandic
| Message 10 of 12 11 January 2011 at 5:24pm | IP Logged |
jeff_lindqvist wrote:
What I think he meant is that Mao (and others) had a thick accent because they didn't speak standard Mandarin. It's possible to have an accent (even a thick one) in one's native language. |
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Well, Mandarin wasn't Mao's native language anyway - even your quote from Wikipedia says that. Xiang is not a dialect of Mandarin.
Edited by michau on 11 January 2011 at 5:26pm
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| karaipyhare Tetraglot Groupie Paraguay Joined 5590 days ago 74 posts - 150 votes Speaks: Portuguese, Spanish*, English, Guarani Studies: German, Italian, French, Mandarin, Japanese
| Message 11 of 12 12 January 2011 at 2:29pm | IP Logged |
michau wrote:
jeff_lindqvist wrote:
What I think he meant is that Mao (and others) had
a thick accent because they didn't speak standard Mandarin. It's possible to have
an accent (even a thick one) in one's native language. |
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Well, Mandarin wasn't Mao's native language anyway - even your quote from Wikipedia says
that. Xiang is not a dialect of Mandarin. |
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Not a dialect of Mandarin but a Chinese dialect rightly so.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xiang_Chinese
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| OneEye Diglot Senior Member Japan Joined 6855 days ago 518 posts - 784 votes Speaks: English*, Mandarin Studies: Japanese, Taiwanese, German, French
| Message 12 of 12 12 January 2011 at 5:45pm | IP Logged |
karaipyhare wrote:
michau wrote:
jeff_lindqvist wrote:
What I think he meant is that Mao (and others) had
a thick accent because they didn't speak standard Mandarin. It's possible to have
an accent (even a thick one) in one's native language. |
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Well, Mandarin wasn't Mao's native language anyway - even your quote from Wikipedia says
that. Xiang is not a dialect of Mandarin. |
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Not a dialect of Mandarin but a Chinese dialect rightly so.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xiang_Chinese
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Nobody said anything about Xiang not being a Chinese language. Of course it is.
And it's mutually unintelligible with Standard Chinese. Chinese "dialects" (more accurately referred to as "dialect groups" or even "Chinese languages") are as different from each other as French and Italian at least. So the fact that Xiang is not a dialect of Mandarin is significant. It's a different language. Now, New Xiang is intelligible to a certain extent with Southwestern Mandarin, but SW Mandarin is quite different from Standard Mandarin. So there are two big steps between Mao's dialect and Standard Chinese.
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