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JaKorChi Newbie Australia Joined 5060 days ago 18 posts - 19 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Japanese, Korean, Afrikaans, Mandarin
| Message 9 of 12 18 January 2011 at 8:00am | IP Logged |
I've had this problem in the past, too. Try tackling it like I have:
Firstly, make a list of the vocabulary you want to learn, and write them in a book. Try to be as neat and organised as possible. Create flashcards and use them whenever you have a spare moment at school/work or when you go for a walk. Say the words out loud as much as possible.
Once you feel like you know them all (test yourself), you can rinse and repeat (with new vocabulary). At the end of the month, look through the book you've kept, and look at the English words, writing the Japanese equivalent for each one. The ones you get stuck on or can't remember, you should write down on a piece of paper, and re-study them.
Use the words in sentences as much as possible, and if it helps, write the words on pieces of cards and stick them on your wall/door/furniture/ceiling. And... practice with native speakers! You're more likely to remember a vocabulary if you come across it in day-to-day life, because your brain sees it as a necessary piece of information, so it's more likely to be remembered.
I also find that when I get a vocabulary list and attempt to learn the vocabulary, I get bored really quickly. Instead, I'll find a Japanese magazine/newspaper/TV show and try to translate what's being written/said, and I'll write down and memorise any words I don't know the meaning of. I find it more productive for me, personally, but you might be different.
So, play around and good luck mate.
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| Arekkusu Hexaglot Senior Member Canada bit.ly/qc_10_lec Joined 5382 days ago 3971 posts - 7747 votes Speaks: English, French*, GermanC1, Spanish, Japanese, Esperanto Studies: Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Estonian
| Message 10 of 12 18 January 2011 at 5:03pm | IP Logged |
A lot of people here use methods to memorize large quantities of words, sometimes computerized or automated, but it's never worked for me. I need to see/hear and use the words in context for them to stick, and quite frankly, that's the way humans learned languages before computers came -- or even before writing came along. The human brain has learnt languages in a real life context for millenia. It's not going to change this decade.
I suggest you make your vocabulary acquisition meaningful and relevant to your life. Try to learn -- and use -- the words you need in your daily life. When you read a new word, don't just expect to remember it: repeat it, use it in a sentence, see yourself in a context where you need to use it and play it out. Make it as close to real life as you can.
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| CorruptingYouth Newbie United States webkohder.net Joined 5057 days ago 6 posts - 8 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Japanese
| Message 11 of 12 21 January 2011 at 7:38am | IP Logged |
I used to drill all the time on Renshuu.Org, but now I practice more with Smart.FM for
the time being. Both are pretty good, though.
The thing is, you have to accompany drilling with reading. Rikai was a good suggestion.
I also read manga, but I've found that's only made me good with some simple set phrases
like, "Watch out!" and "Are you okay?" I translate with Jim Breen's dictionary out so I
can look up words I don't know along the way. It will take a paragraph, if you want,
and spit out individual words but not the who paragraph's meaning. I have to use my
grammar knowledge and sometimes Google stuff I don't know. The grammar library at
Renshuu is also useful for that.
Another thing: whenever learning something new, I try to associate something memorable
with the word. Funny the other guy who said "kuraberu" because I always remember it for
another reason: it sounds to me like the name of an anime character who is always
trying to prove he's the best, and the word means "to compare" (or something like
that). So they're always comparing each other by fighting. *lol*
I do think it takes a certain obsessiveness to learn Japanese, though. Good luck. :)
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| yusukehito Triglot Newbie United States Joined 5052 days ago 5 posts - 5 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, English, Japanese
| Message 12 of 12 26 January 2011 at 1:59am | IP Logged |
Try writing sentences using the new vocabulary, as well as writing the new words you've just learned. I think one of
the best ways of remembering the vocabulary is using the new words in sentences.
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