Iversen Super Polyglot Moderator Denmark berejst.dk Joined 6708 days ago 9078 posts - 16473 votes Speaks: Danish*, French, English, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, Swedish, Esperanto, Romanian, Catalan Studies: Afrikaans, Greek, Norwegian, Russian, Serbian, Icelandic, Latin, Irish, Lowland Scots, Indonesian, Polish, Croatian Personal Language Map
| Message 9 of 17 31 January 2011 at 5:31pm | IP Logged |
I am enormously patient when I have accepted that something is a valuable longterm project. But I have a very limited patience with prolonged babbling or nonsense. Actually this is just Einstein's dictum seen from another angle.
Edited by Iversen on 31 January 2011 at 5:31pm
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Arekkusu Hexaglot Senior Member Canada bit.ly/qc_10_lec Joined 5386 days ago 3971 posts - 7747 votes Speaks: English, French*, GermanC1, Spanish, Japanese, Esperanto Studies: Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Estonian
| Message 11 of 17 31 January 2011 at 6:26pm | IP Logged |
I'm rather impatient and I tend to want answers right away. However, when something's bogging me down, I work hard on it until I get it. Since I'm also annoyed when I can't do something, the two probably cancel eachother out.
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leosmith Senior Member United States Joined 6555 days ago 2365 posts - 3804 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Tagalog
| Message 12 of 17 01 February 2011 at 1:28am | IP Logged |
I used to be impatient. Then I started carrying a book around with me.
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numerodix Trilingual Hexaglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 6788 days ago 856 posts - 1226 votes Speaks: EnglishC2*, Norwegian*, Polish*, Italian, Dutch, French Studies: Portuguese, Mandarin
| Message 13 of 17 01 February 2011 at 4:03pm | IP Logged |
You don't need the same amount of patience for everything. Working through an Italian
grammar book, that took a lot of patience. But reading books and newspapers, what I
mostly do now, takes much less. That's why you should probably mix and match a bit, don't
insist on doing only the toughest activity until you finish.
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karabatov Diglot Newbie Russian Federation semanticvictory.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5073 days ago 15 posts - 37 votes Speaks: Russian*, EnglishC2 Studies: German, Japanese, French
| Message 14 of 17 02 February 2011 at 11:40am | IP Logged |
If you have to be patient, switch to another material: you're bored and you won't learn a lot by force anyway.
Patience comes into play when a) you don't see progress b) you have a large chunk of material in front of you. Either
are two sides of the same coin: alter or switch material.
If we're talking day-to-day patience, it means language learning doesn't bring pleasure. I believe it's wrong; passion
for language must burn at all times.
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Sennin Senior Member Bulgaria Joined 6039 days ago 1457 posts - 1759 votes 5 sounds
| Message 15 of 17 02 February 2011 at 9:29pm | IP Logged |
karabatov wrote:
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Switch to different material, or better still change your attitude. Too much focus on the outcome and the amount of work that must be done makes things impossibly hard. Patience is the ability to enjoy the process of learning. It is about doing things at your own pace, trying to do them well, not necessarily fast.
p.s. Patience is *not* the ability to endure boring stuff; that's called stoicism (= physical and mental deprivation of joy).
Edited by Sennin on 02 February 2011 at 9:43pm
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RealJames Diglot Newbie Japan realizeenglish.com/ Joined 5129 days ago 37 posts - 42 votes Speaks: French, English* Studies: Japanese
| Message 16 of 17 05 February 2011 at 5:36am | IP Logged |
I am very patient with learning a language until I get to the "socially competent" level and then after that I can't be bothered with perfecting it.
It's like the last 10% takes 90% of the time and I'd rather spend that time getting to 90% on 9 other things!
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