Arekkusu Hexaglot Senior Member Canada bit.ly/qc_10_lec Joined 5386 days ago 3971 posts - 7747 votes Speaks: English, French*, GermanC1, Spanish, Japanese, Esperanto Studies: Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Estonian
| Message 1 of 12 17 February 2011 at 4:24am | IP Logged |
Seems no one has yet referenced this video about babies learning to discriminate (or not)
sounds, from TED.
http://w
ww.ted.com/talks/patricia_kuhl_the_linguistic_genius_of_babi es.html
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tritone Senior Member United States reflectionsinpo Joined 6125 days ago 246 posts - 385 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Portuguese, French
| Message 2 of 12 17 February 2011 at 5:32pm | IP Logged |
too many people beleive in this.
theories like this, which are too often stated as fact, are detrimental to language learners.
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Arekkusu Hexaglot Senior Member Canada bit.ly/qc_10_lec Joined 5386 days ago 3971 posts - 7747 votes Speaks: English, French*, GermanC1, Spanish, Japanese, Esperanto Studies: Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Estonian
| Message 3 of 12 17 February 2011 at 5:50pm | IP Logged |
Scientists are not in the business of encouraging learners.
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Dragonsheep Groupie United States Joined 5275 days ago 46 posts - 63 votes Studies: Tagalog, English* Studies: Japanese, Latin
| Message 4 of 12 17 February 2011 at 6:32pm | IP Logged |
tritone wrote:
too many people beleive in this.
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I'm not comfortable with determining the truth based on how encouraging or discouraging it is to . More often than not, the truth can be discouraging.
Of course, this won't stop me from my language studies.
Edited by Dragonsheep on 17 February 2011 at 6:54pm
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Arekkusu Hexaglot Senior Member Canada bit.ly/qc_10_lec Joined 5386 days ago 3971 posts - 7747 votes Speaks: English, French*, GermanC1, Spanish, Japanese, Esperanto Studies: Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Estonian
| Message 5 of 12 17 February 2011 at 6:48pm | IP Logged |
Dragonsheep wrote:
tritone wrote:
too many people beleive in this.
theories like this, which are too often stated as fact, are detrimental to language learners. |
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I'm not comfortable with determining the truth based on how encouraging or discouraging it is to . More often than not, the truth can be discouragin. |
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And that is both true AND discouraging.
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tritone Senior Member United States reflectionsinpo Joined 6125 days ago 246 posts - 385 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Portuguese, French
| Message 6 of 12 17 February 2011 at 7:02pm | IP Logged |
grown adults have been duped into beleiving that they lack the intelligence of 2 and 3 year olds.
it's pretty sad.
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cathrynm Senior Member United States junglevision.co Joined 6130 days ago 910 posts - 1232 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Japanese, Finnish
| Message 7 of 12 17 February 2011 at 7:56pm | IP Logged |
I'm intrigued by the idea that babies learn sounds coming from a human, but do not learn to recognize sounds coming from electronics. I wonder if this applies to adults also? There's something interesting going on here.
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Arekkusu Hexaglot Senior Member Canada bit.ly/qc_10_lec Joined 5386 days ago 3971 posts - 7747 votes Speaks: English, French*, GermanC1, Spanish, Japanese, Esperanto Studies: Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Estonian
| Message 8 of 12 17 February 2011 at 10:20pm | IP Logged |
cathrynm wrote:
I'm intrigued by the idea that babies learn sounds coming from a human, but do not learn to recognize sounds coming from electronics. I wonder if this applies to adults also? There's something interesting going on here. |
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I've always thought that I'm a lot more likely to learn and remember a word if it came up in a real live situation than if I just read it.
Babies may have their natural, millenia-old ways to learn their first language, but I'm convinced adults also have such millenia-old ways to learn their second language. Since written language is a fairly recent innovation, the natural way for adults to learn must have been from actual interactions with other human beings. I think this is still the best way to learn.
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