joanthemaid Triglot Senior Member France Joined 5473 days ago 483 posts - 559 votes Speaks: French*, English, Spanish Studies: Russian, German
| Message 41 of 72 31 January 2010 at 10:04pm | IP Logged |
Hey, you seem to be doing quite well! Why don't you use Anki or some such instead of notecards?
Eleven months to go, good luck teammate!
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Sprachjunge Diglot Senior Member Germany Joined 7168 days ago 368 posts - 548 votes Speaks: English*, GermanC2 Studies: Spanish, Russian
| Message 42 of 72 31 January 2010 at 10:08pm | IP Logged |
Lol Joanthemaid beat me to it! I swear I was just about to write: "Why don't you try Anki? It's really efficient."
Anyhow, I used to look at my paper flashcards and had my two big index boxes with everything organized according to tabs. But after a while it just got to be too much. Now I'm sure I have the equivalent of at least a third of the amount of information that I had on my old flashcards, and it's neatly organized on the laptop. I would definitely give it a try. Good luck this month!
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Icaria909 Senior Member United States Joined 5594 days ago 201 posts - 346 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish
| Message 43 of 72 03 February 2010 at 4:55am | IP Logged |
I know, I envy you guys and your anki cards. I think I am going to give them a try.
For another report, I took a day to relax and just enjoy Spanish. tomorrow is my russian day. But today, I was looking through some of the old books I had bought when I was in spain and I found an old book from La EspaƱa del Franco, with some Lope de Vega's plays.
I was completely surprised that I could follow most of the plays. Because the plays are written so all the information is shown through the dialogue, I can understand most of what's being said without a dictionary. I read somewhere that like 80% of conversation is repeated, so it's much easier to understand dialogue rather than the background sentences of novels, etc. I just spent an hour reading through some of the plays and trying to commit some of the plays to memory.
Although, I would like it if someone who knows the history of the Spanish language would tell me if using Vega's plays for practice is a good idea. I don't want it to be like me learning modern English by reading shakespeare.
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Icaria909 Senior Member United States Joined 5594 days ago 201 posts - 346 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish
| Message 44 of 72 05 February 2010 at 3:46am | IP Logged |
Today, I decided to try out some new stuff for my studying schedule. Instead of going through each of my workbooks and doing the work problems one at a time, I'm skipping the problems to just read the grammar books. I want to try and get at least a broad idea of Spanish and russian grammar before I work on the particulars. Right now, I working on Spanish verb conjugations and russian accusative cases. Hopefully I'll finish both grammar books by the end of next week.
Otherwise, I read more in Schaum's Grammar book and I listened and translated a little of Me Amo.
Spanish- 15.5 hours
Russian- 16.5 hours
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Sprachjunge Diglot Senior Member Germany Joined 7168 days ago 368 posts - 548 votes Speaks: English*, GermanC2 Studies: Spanish, Russian
| Message 45 of 72 06 February 2010 at 11:08am | IP Logged |
Hey, bud! I just wanted to thank you for the encouragement, and say that you seem to be getting things done yourself! It's also interesting to read the logs, as after the one-month mark a lot of people seem to be revamping study techniques or schedules. I know I am.
Oh, about your plays. First, congratulations on your comprehension! Second, I would be a little cautious about taking structures outright. A while back I was reading "Modern Spanish Prose," a compendium of works that were modern in the 60s. I tried using several of the structures I had learned in essays on Lang-8 and was told by native speakers that they were too antiquated. And this was from a book from the 1960s.
Anyhow, good luck and we'll all keep plugging away, I guess. I'm glad that we're teammates, and it's really encouraging to know that you and Joanthemaid (edit: and Bramsterdam, of course!) are also out there pursuing the dream. :)
Edited by Sprachjunge on 06 February 2010 at 9:11pm
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Icaria909 Senior Member United States Joined 5594 days ago 201 posts - 346 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish
| Message 46 of 72 07 February 2010 at 2:22am | IP Logged |
Thanks Sprachjunge. If a few decades makes phrases antiquatedk, then a few centuries is bound to do the same thing. I even checked out a few phrases online and found that some of their meanings are radically different.
Like you guys, I'm going to revamp my system. I'll post my new system by next week. My neighbor just brought over his level 1 Rosetta Stone for Russian Course. I am going to give it a try and see if it's worth fitting into my new system.
As for today, however, I was pretty bored with studying grammar so I went online looking for some other resources to use. At some point I came along an online Pokemon game completely in Spanish. I've spent the last hour playing it and chatting with some of people in Spanish. It was actually quite a lot of fun considering that I was playing pokemon?! I also studied another half hour of Russian in Shaum's russian grammar book.
Spanish- 17 hours
Russian- 17 hours
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Sprachjunge Diglot Senior Member Germany Joined 7168 days ago 368 posts - 548 votes Speaks: English*, GermanC2 Studies: Spanish, Russian
| Message 47 of 72 15 February 2010 at 11:59am | IP Logged |
Hi! How's the new system working out?
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Icaria909 Senior Member United States Joined 5594 days ago 201 posts - 346 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish
| Message 48 of 72 22 February 2010 at 12:47am | IP Logged |
Sorry I haven't posted in a while. I was spending the time fixing my classes and evaluating my studying techniques.
First Off, I've decided to take back up Catalan. I had been learning the language before TAC, but stopped so that I could make time for Russian. Now, I am just frustrated with Russian because it's more difficult to apply my language learning techniques to it than Catalan. I usually spend a lot time reading grammar at first to geta basic idea of how the language works, then I spend more time learning vocabulary, and when I learn about 1000 words I work on reading and listening. But with Russian its difficult because slavic grammar isn't very similar to English while grammar from romance languages is much more similar to English, and russian is not as phonetic. I also have to look up the stress of each word from the dictionary because stress changes in russian. I know I sound like I'm whining and complaining, but I'm just saying these things to underscore my frustation with Russian and why I want to work more on a language like Catalan.
I spent the last week deciding if I wanted to just drop Russian (at least for the time being until I could make it my prime focus). But I don't want to disappoint my teammates. So I'm just going to fit russian into my schedule.
I've spent a lot of time reading Spanish in the last week, and I've found that I can read most of it without a dictionary. So I am going to spend more time on reading and listening than I was doing last month. I'm also going to start Catalan from scratch, but It won't take me long to get learn the basic vocab.
For Russian, I am going to spend more time on grammar than vocabulary, and then in a few months I'll start on vocab again.
So here is my new weekly schedule:
Monday- Spanish for an hour, catalan for half an hour
Tuesday- Spanish for an hour, catalan for half an hour
Wednesday- Spanish for an hour, Russian for half an hour
Thursday-Spanish for an hour, catalan for half an hour
Friday-Spanish for an hour, catalan for half an hour, Russian for half an hour
Saturday-Spanish for a half an hour, catalan for half an hour, Russian for half an hour.
I think doing Russian for a few days a week will allow me to continue to study and learn, albeit more slowly than before.
Spanish- 22 hours
Russian- 18 hours
Catalan- .5 hours
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