datsunking1 Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5590 days ago 1014 posts - 1533 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: German, Russian, Dutch, French
| Message 57 of 91 16 March 2010 at 10:43pm | IP Logged |
Sandman wrote:
It's the same reason people keep using Windows time and time again, even though there are better alternatives. |
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I use microsoft because I hate apple's format... lol :D
Not to get off topic, but I'm sure people learn languages for the same reason.
Because of it's usefulness.
If there was a mass worldwide movement to teach esperanto at birth (or in school to young kids) I'm sure it would turn around.
It will take a lot of effort in order to make this work.
Edited by datsunking1 on 16 March 2010 at 10:44pm
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vilas Pentaglot Senior Member Italy Joined 6965 days ago 531 posts - 722 votes Speaks: Spanish, Italian*, English, French, Portuguese
| Message 58 of 91 17 March 2010 at 1:57pm | IP Logged |
Esperanto is more a game than a language ....
Esperantists make congress if they want practice this hobby. like every other artificial language.
Interlingua is less famous but more useful..Same Skandinavian used in travels in southern europe and they make esaily them selves understood in Spain Italy Portugal...
There are official translators of esperanto in the European Union or United Nations or somewhere else in same important international organizations?
There are famous singers that sing in esperanto ? or movies in esperanto?
The millionaire Soros was raised by an esperanto family but in the official speechs usually speaks English....
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Captain Haddock Diglot Senior Member Japan kanjicabinet.tumblr. Joined 6773 days ago 2282 posts - 2814 votes Speaks: English*, Japanese Studies: French, Korean, Ancient Greek
| Message 59 of 91 17 March 2010 at 2:25pm | IP Logged |
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Be careful with that expression, it's a euphemism for you-know-what. (Unless that's what you actually meant, in
which case, Esperanto may have some unexpected sides to it.)
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datsunking1 Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5590 days ago 1014 posts - 1533 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: German, Russian, Dutch, French
| Message 60 of 91 17 March 2010 at 4:11pm | IP Logged |
vilas wrote:
Esperanto is more a game than a language ....
Esperantists make congress if they want practice this hobby. like every other artificial language.
Interlingua is less famous but more useful..Same Skandinavian used in travels in southern europe and they make esaily them selves understood in Spain Italy Portugal...
There are official translators of esperanto in the European Union or United Nations or somewhere else in same important international organizations?
There are famous singers that sing in esperanto ? or movies in esperanto?
The millionaire Soros was raised by an esperanto family but in the official speechs usually speaks English.... |
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There are actually several artists and a few movies in esperanto... not to mention hundreds of translations of both classic and modern works.
I'm not defending or approving esperanto, just stating mere facts. I've chosen not to take a position :)
Edited by datsunking1 on 17 March 2010 at 4:12pm
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vilas Pentaglot Senior Member Italy Joined 6965 days ago 531 posts - 722 votes Speaks: Spanish, Italian*, English, French, Portuguese
| Message 62 of 91 17 March 2010 at 5:47pm | IP Logged |
Io face excusas pro ulle offensa que poteva haber essite causate al esperantistas .
Sed post 123 annos de vita ille no sembla que es multe expandite super le planeta.
Io prefere interlingua , que io no ha necessitate multe tempore pro aprender .proque jam parle linguas romances.
Aunque proquè " De gustibus non disputandum est"
salutes a omnes
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Volte Tetraglot Senior Member Switzerland Joined 6444 days ago 4474 posts - 6726 votes Speaks: English*, Esperanto, German, Italian Studies: French, Finnish, Mandarin, Japanese
| Message 63 of 91 17 March 2010 at 6:52pm | IP Logged |
Tombstone wrote:
Esperanto is indeed a legitimate language,
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Indeed.
Tombstone wrote:
However, as far as Esperanto goes, the downside of implementing usage on a large scale for business/governmental/diplomatic purposes far outweighs the possible upside.
It would take governmental action by a large number of countries before the language would progress beyond that of a novelty.
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Very likely, assuming that you mean a novelty for wide-scale business/governmental use. As a language, it hasn't been a novelty in over a century.
That said, the UEA has a certain limited power. To quote from wikipedia: "In addition to the UN and UNESCO, UEA also has consultative relations with UNICEF and the Council of Europe, and a general working relationship with the Organization of American States. It works in an official capacity with the International Organization for Standardization (ISO). UEA is active in public information in the European Union and as necessary at other interstate and international organizations and conferences. The organisation is a member of the European Language Council, a common forum of universities and language associations for the awareness of languages and cultures in and outside of the European Union."
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As of right now it is simply "Klingon without the fancy costumes."
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Only if you're willing to classify most of the world's languages with under 2 million speakers that way. It strikes me as quite a misrepresentation.
Edited by Volte on 17 March 2010 at 6:54pm
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Delodephius Bilingual Tetraglot Senior Member Yugoslavia Joined 5408 days ago 342 posts - 501 votes Speaks: Slovak*, Serbo-Croatian*, EnglishC1, Czech Studies: Russian, Japanese
| Message 64 of 91 17 March 2010 at 10:44pm | IP Logged |
I think I would learn Esperanto only if someone pays me to. I it is not appealing to me.
As for an international language sure, maybe, I don't doubt there are better candidates out there even if not perfect. I just don't want it to go too far though. I dread of a monolingual world. I'd rather see the future of our planet to be polyglotic than knowing just your native language and an international one (or just knowing that international language). Better for all humans to be polyglots. :-D
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