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| Whisky Triglot Groupie Germany Joined 5948 days ago 63 posts - 64 votes  Speaks: German, French*, English Studies: Japanese | Message 9 of 13 20 March 2010 at 5:43pm | IP Logged | ||
Thanks for that explanation ! I imagine that this is much the same for the -nai "verb-ending", which has IIUC all the qualities of an adjective as well. Regarding the i-adjectives in general, your explanation also fits the literal translations given by the Assimil well, e.g. "ookii" ---> "gross sein" not just "gross", so that while I would not have come up with the formulation "quality verbs" myself, it does fit my image of the language. Edited by Whisky on 20 March 2010 at 5:48pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Captain Haddock Diglot Senior Member Japan kanjicabinet.tumblr. Joined 6771 days ago 2282 posts - 2814 votes Speaks: English*, Japanese Studies: French, Korean, Ancient Greek | Message 10 of 13 22 March 2010 at 7:00am | IP Logged | ||
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Yep. Once you start treating i-adjectives as a verb category, a lot of grammatical stuff that was hard to remember
falls into place. For example, the -i suffix used to be pronounced -ki (just like ki turned to i in the ta and te forms of ku verbs), and that k- root is still used to create most of its endings. 良い 良くて 良ければ 良かろう etc. Edited by Captain Haddock on 22 March 2010 at 7:00am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Whisky Triglot Groupie Germany Joined 5948 days ago 63 posts - 64 votes Speaks: German, French*, English Studies: Japanese | Message 11 of 13 04 April 2010 at 9:41pm | IP Logged | ||
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So, now I've reached 1500+ and ought to finish Heisig 1 by the end of the month at latest, provided I find as much time to study regularly. Currently, given my pace, this means some 60-80 minutes a day, which is actually quite a lot, since this is quality concentration time we're talking about. I've been quite conservative in my self-assessment in Anki, meaning I tend to give rather stern ratings. About 500 of my cards are "mature" (meaning they have an interval of 20+ days between consecutive repetitions). If I'd not gone this far, my motivation would take a hit right now, given the amount of work this has been... I'll probably tackle Heisig 3 someday, but I'll definitely need a break in between.
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| Whisky Triglot Groupie Germany Joined 5948 days ago 63 posts - 64 votes Speaks: German, French*, English Studies: Japanese | Message 12 of 13 28 April 2010 at 2:16pm | IP Logged | ||
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This is it.
:) I've gone through Heisig1. The feeling of relief is quite overwhelming. As others have noted repeatedly, I know this is but the first small step towards literacy and implies further use of SRS, but it's been quite rough to actually keep the discipline to learn more Kanji everyday for a three month stretch - given the constraints of having a real life (kids, work, you name it :) ). Just what am I going to do on the subway now ? Don't answer this - I've got plenty of ideas, haha... I'll now order Heisig3 (already have the second book) but before I commit to going on with the series, I'll forage into "10.000 sentences"-type of ideas, just to get a feeling for the actual usefulness (or lack of it) of what I have now learned. Champagne ! Edited by Whisky on 29 April 2010 at 8:17am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| ManicGenius Senior Member United States Joined 5484 days ago 288 posts - 420 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Esperanto, French, Japanese | Message 13 of 13 29 April 2010 at 8:37pm | IP Logged | ||
Second book blows, sell it and go onto the third. You'll learn more straight from reading and a dictionary than you would with that POS. Instead if you need some sort of action to learn readings, I suggest Kanji Odyssey 2001, or the defunct Kanji in Context series. But Heisig book 2 is absolutely horrid. Edited by ManicGenius on 29 April 2010 at 8:37pm 1 person has voted this message useful |
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