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| ruskivyetr Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5484 days ago 769 posts - 962 votes  Speaks: English*, German Studies: Spanish, Russian, Polish, Modern Hebrew | Message 1 of 21 04 April 2010 at 7:26am | IP Logged |
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OOPS! I was adding a few languages to my hitlist, and I accidentally deleted Georgian. My log is now lost, so I just
thought I'd start a new one. Ok so here's my summary from my last log: Can read and write Georgian alphabet (albeit slowly) Can say numbers 1-10, hello, goodbye, what time it is, day, etc. My goal by the end of the month of April, be able to have a basic conversation in the Georgian language. By the end of next year, I want to be conversationally fluent, although this is a stretch, and I'd like to keep the basic conversation goal the priority. Who knows, maybe I'm one of those people who just gets a certain language and can speak it fluently within a week ;). JUST KIDDING!!!! Anyways, I was going to read in some German before bedtime, but I think I'm just gonna grab a look at my Georgian book. Edited by ruskivyetr on 17 April 2010 at 5:12pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| TixhiiDon Tetraglot Senior Member Japan Joined 5467 days ago 772 posts - 1474 votes Speaks: English*, Japanese, German, Russian Studies: Georgian | Message 2 of 21 05 April 2010 at 12:30am | IP Logged |
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გამარჯობა ruskivyetr! როგორა ხარ?
It's great to see you've started a Georgian log. Hopefully we can learn a lot from each other. Are you using the German textbooks after all? I know I do rather a lot of raving about Dodona Kiziria's book "Beginner's Georgian", but I really think it's worth purchasing a copy to get started in the language. By the way, do you know this site http://www.translate.ge/# ? It's a pretty good Georgian-English English-Georgian online dictionary, and it also converts Latin characters automatically into the Georgian alphabet, after which you can just copy- paste onto your posts here. Unfortunately verbs are only provided in the masdar (verbal noun) form as usual, so it's not perfect, but as I'm sure you'll soon find, Georgian is sadly not a language that can be learned using a bilingual dictionary. Anyway, have fun with this coolest of languages! კარგად იყავი! Edited by TixhiiDon on 05 April 2010 at 12:31am 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| ruskivyetr Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5484 days ago 769 posts - 962 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Spanish, Russian, Polish, Modern Hebrew | Message 3 of 21 05 April 2010 at 3:29am | IP Logged |
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TixhiiDon, I do have Beginner's Georgian! It's GREAT! I see you speak German too! From Amazon.de, the Georgian
book I told you about. I want to get it, but I don't think it's going to happen anytime soon, and plus it's a bit expensive already, I can only imagine how much it would be to ship here to America. In your log I recall that you said your German isn't good enough. It doesn't matter the level of your German, and it might even help it. I think that there might be an opportunity here. I can get it (within the next month or so), and then I can tell you how well it works for me with my level of German. I haven't seen that website yet! But I will definitely use it to post in the Georgian script, although I'd like to find a Unicode font for my computer so I can just switch keyboards. I am definitely keeping tabs on your log, and I hope that we can encourage a few people around the forum to learn Georgian, and hopefully start a little learning community. Georgian verbs are always going to present a problem, however if you look at the wikipedia's page for the skreeve, it seems a bit simpler. Happy learning! ნახვამდის! Edited by ruskivyetr on 05 April 2010 at 3:38am 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| ruskivyetr Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5484 days ago 769 posts - 962 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Spanish, Russian, Polish, Modern Hebrew | Message 4 of 21 07 April 2010 at 9:00am | IP Logged |
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I've not gotten to practice since the weekend, but hopefully this weekend will offer a bunch of time. I can't do
anything tomorrow as I have a busy day, however Gerorgian will be a priority this weekend. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| ruskivyetr Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5484 days ago 769 posts - 962 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Spanish, Russian, Polish, Modern Hebrew | Message 5 of 21 13 April 2010 at 1:01am | IP Logged |
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I'm just about to do some Georgian. I am going to look once again at the numbers, etc, and at some of the phrases
that I must know. I am also dabbling a bit in Armenian. Perhaps knowing these languages will open me up to resources in them for the other, as they are both spoken in the Caucasus. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| ruskivyetr Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5484 days ago 769 posts - 962 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Spanish, Russian, Polish, Modern Hebrew | Message 6 of 21 17 April 2010 at 5:11pm | IP Logged |
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I have a bunch of time today. I am starting with Russian, and then I'm going to go STRAIGHT to Georgian :).
Armenian will come later, so I can get that done :). So today I'm going to seriously start my studies. I will finish all the stuff that is in the "prechapter" of my book. I will then start on the first unit, which teaches verb conjugations in the first and third person! YAY! :D Anyways, I will definitely post later after Armenian on my progress, and hopefully there will be a lot of it :). 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| ruskivyetr Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5484 days ago 769 posts - 962 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Spanish, Russian, Polish, Modern Hebrew | Message 7 of 21 17 April 2010 at 9:46pm | IP Logged |
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I added a bunch of words from the first unite of Beginner's Georgian to my Anki. This Beginner's Georgian book is
good, but not amazing. I was looking in the back, and only five of the skreeve are in here :( (present, future, imperfect, aorist, and optative). I still need to figure out the real workings of the skreeve and how it works. Anyone with any information, your contribution is greatly valued. Anyways, I learned how to conjugate first and second person verbs in the present. For first person, you add "v" on to beginning of the active form, and for second person, you add on "t" onto the end. To form the dative/accusative case (at least from what I've worked out through the vocabulary list), you must add "s". So ena (language) would become enas. I'm going to do some Anki practice, will post back later! :) 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| TixhiiDon Tetraglot Senior Member Japan Joined 5467 days ago 772 posts - 1474 votes Speaks: English*, Japanese, German, Russian Studies: Georgian | Message 8 of 21 18 April 2010 at 12:31am | IP Logged |
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Hi ruskivyetr, glad to see you got started on your Georgian! The Beginner's Georgian
book is indeed quite limited, but as an introduction it is very well laid out and easy to follow. If you want a more advanced grammar book you should get Aronson's Georgian Reading Grammar, which I'm working on now that I've finished Kiziria's book. I actually wrote an email to Dodona Kiziria telling her how much I liked her book, and she wrote a reply saying she was working on a sequel of sorts, tentatively titled "Georgian Verbs Made Easy", so that's something to look forward to. "Skreeve" is basically just another word for "tense" so you don't need to worry to much about it just yet. According to Aronson, "...since the various "tenses" do not always have temporal meaning, but may have modal or aspectual meanings instead, we prefer the more unusual but less misleading term of "skreeve"". On the other hand, it is valuable to know about the Georgian verb series'. For example, the present series includes the present, imperfect, and imperfective conjunctive skreeves, while the future series includes the future, conditional, and perfective conjunctive skreeves. This means that these respective three skreeves are formed from the same verb root with different endings. The Aronson book explains all this very well, but in my case I found it extremely difficult to understand until I'd got a basic grounding in the language with Kiziria's book. Anyway, you seem to be doing OK so far. To give you a couple of examples of what you've learned: "I speak Georgian" is მე ქართულ ენას ვლაპარაკობ and "I play soccer" is მე ფეხბურთს ვთამაშობ. You can leave out the personal pronoun if you want though. 3 persons have voted this message useful |
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