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| slucido Bilingual Diglot Senior Member Spain https://goo.gl/126Yv Joined 6676 days ago 1296 posts - 1781 votes  4 sounds Speaks: Spanish*, Catalan* Studies: English | Message 25 of 32 29 December 2010 at 12:05am | IP Logged | ||||||||
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I have this other audio exercise I recorded two or three years ago:
http://how-to-learn-any-language.com/sounds/242.mp3 Transcript of sound file: If I understand your problem is with the Spanish rolling r. You should do the following exercises repeated and continuously: 1-Pronounce L rising the tip of your tongue upwards, touching the palate. Repeat it a lot of times. You will gradually produce the R sound. 2-Pronounce the word PERO,separating the two syllables, PE-RO, a lot of times. 3-Do the same with words RATO, RICO, RABO and finally with ARRIBA y CARRO -------------- You can find another good explanation in this youtube video as well: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLsUXDkVKYA I hope it helps. Edited by slucido on 29 December 2010 at 12:46am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| slucido Bilingual Diglot Senior Member Spain https://goo.gl/126Yv Joined 6676 days ago 1296 posts - 1781 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Spanish*, Catalan* Studies: English | Message 26 of 32 29 December 2010 at 12:35am | IP Logged | ||||||||
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I have just recorded these examples with my voice:
"pero, perro, caro, carro, erre, rrrrrrrrrrrrrr" http://www.goear.com/listen/a16bc7e/spanish-rolling-r-slucid o Edited by slucido on 29 December 2010 at 12:36am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Darklight1216 Diglot Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5101 days ago 411 posts - 639 votes Speaks: English*, French Studies: German | Message 27 of 32 29 December 2010 at 3:31am | IP Logged | ||||||||
I can't really appreciate that. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| slucido Bilingual Diglot Senior Member Spain https://goo.gl/126Yv Joined 6676 days ago 1296 posts - 1781 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Spanish*, Catalan* Studies: English | Message 28 of 32 29 December 2010 at 9:42am | IP Logged | ||||||||
I understand. Men is your motivation :O) 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Kubelek Tetraglot Senior Member Switzerland chomikuj.pl/Kuba_wal Joined 6853 days ago 415 posts - 528 votes Speaks: Polish*, EnglishC2, French, Spanish Studies: German | Message 29 of 32 29 December 2010 at 11:04am | IP Logged | ||||||||
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slucido, thank you very much!
Mrwarper: It's interesting what you said about points of articulations. I was sure that the 'd' in todos is more of a dental sound :/ 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| mrwarper Diglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member Spain forum_posts.asp?TID=Registered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5227 days ago 1493 posts - 2500 votes Speaks: Spanish*, EnglishC2 Studies: German, Russian, Japanese | Message 30 of 32 29 December 2010 at 2:45pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
My bad 0:) "Todos" is a Spanish word, and the /d/ sound is clearly dental. But when English speakers say it using _their_ /d/ sound, it may sound like a Spanish 'r', because the points of articulation of English /d/ are similar to those of the Spanish 'r'; hence why so many people propose saying things like 'ladder', 'butter', etc. Sorry, sometimes I just can't be pithy AND clear :) 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Cainntear Pentaglot Senior Member Scotland linguafrankly.blogsp Joined 6012 days ago 4399 posts - 7687 votes Speaks: Lowland Scots, English*, French, Spanish, Scottish Gaelic Studies: Catalan, Italian, German, Irish, Welsh | Message 31 of 32 29 December 2010 at 3:03pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
EXCEPT... That this English pronunciation is only standard in certain parts of North America. In other places, the D is further forward in the mouth, and the T in butter is a glottal stop. Comparing sounds between languages on a forum like this can actually add to people's confusion, because you can't tell how someone pronounces "butter" from the way they write it! 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| mrwarper Diglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member Spain forum_posts.asp?TID=Registered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5227 days ago 1493 posts - 2500 votes Speaks: Spanish*, EnglishC2 Studies: German, Russian, Japanese | Message 32 of 32 29 December 2010 at 3:44pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
EXCEPT... the man I heard pronounce 'todos' in such fashion was oh so very British, and didn't speak funny compared to other people in the region :) Anyway you're right about variations, and that's why I used 'may' and 'misheard': because it might as well not sound entirely like that, or you might hear something slightly different.
Sure, you can't tell 100%; but the base sounds are similar enough, which is why we ask about details and not about 'that new sound you call a d', and if to them (and to me) that variation is closer to another foreign sound, which is why they propose that as an exercise, I suspect our tongue positions, etc. must be quite similar as well (very probably not identical!), unless we are all good ventriloquists or a bit deaf :) 1 person has voted this message useful |
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