Simpleton Newbie Moldova Joined 5684 days ago 3 posts - 4 votes
| Message 1 of 10 09 December 2010 at 2:26pm | IP Logged |
Hellishly difficult to find something useful for Norwegian, both in internet and undernet. And I am going to Norway in the summer and of course it would be pleasant to exchange a few words with native speakers.
What I need:
A dictionary for some 10000 words – only with full transcription (I am never sure if I pronounce them correctly, and it makes me nervous)
Original literature (fiction, preferably) – the only text by Hamsun I found seems to have obsolete language.
Comprehensible grammar reference, and textbook, whatever.
If possible, in printable form - .doc .txt .htm l ….. etc
Could anyone simply send me it on e-mail?
sagramore@rambler.ru
My gratitude would be unfathomable!
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FrostBlast Diglot Senior Member Canada Joined 5100 days ago 168 posts - 254 votes Speaks: French*, English Studies: Spanish, Russian, Swedish, Icelandic
| Message 2 of 10 09 December 2010 at 7:40pm | IP Logged |
I had the same problem when I started learning icelandic a few months before heading over to Iceland on a 6 weeks vacation. I was only able to find a very basic icelandic-english dictionary and a full course package form the Teach Yourself collection. I believe they make a set for bokmål norsk. I had a pretty good experience with the set for icelandic.
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michau Tetraglot Groupie Norway lang-8.com/member/49 Joined 6227 days ago 86 posts - 135 votes Speaks: Polish*, English, NorwegianC1, Mandarin Studies: Spanish, Sign Language Studies: Burmese, Toki Pona, Greenlandic
| Message 3 of 10 09 December 2010 at 9:20pm | IP Logged |
Simpleton wrote:
Hellishly difficult to find something useful for Norwegian, both in internet and undernet. And I am going to Norway in the summer and of course it would be pleasant to exchange a few words with native speakers.
What I need:
A dictionary for some 10000 words – only with full transcription (I am never sure if I pronounce them correctly, and it makes me nervous) |
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The best Norwegian learner's dictionary I know of is Lexin. Note than even though there is no Bokmål-engelsk on the list, if you use e.g. Bokmål-russisk, it will show translations both in Russian as well as in English. Or perhaps you speak Russian anyway, since you're from Moldova. Good thing is that there are example phrases for almost every word, and that they are also translated. There are phonetic transcriptions, but keep in mind that this is not IPA, but rather something that takes Norwegian phonology as a starting point. Most important differences are (roughly):
Lexin -> IPA
o -> u
a -> ɑ
å -> ɔ
u -> ʉ
rn -> ɳ
rt -> ʈ
rs -> ʂ
rl -> ɭ
kj -> ç
sj -> ʃ
v -> ʋ
r -> ɾ
ng -> ŋ
":" is a vowel length sign, as in IPA. Some vowels change their quality a bit when pronounced long, you can read about it in Wikipedia.
After you learn a bit, you can start using the monolingual dictionary (Bokmålsordbok) too, which has more words.
When you come to the stage of speaking with natives, I recommend using Lexin to learn the most popular Nynorsk words. Many Norwegians speak dialect that is quite to understand for a learner of Bokmål, and most of them cannot or don't want to switch to something easier for a non-native.
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Take a look at a thread about Norwegian ebooks
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The most popular textbook here in Norway is Cappelen textbook series: "På vei", "Stein på stein" and "Her på berget". I used them for self-study and it worked quite well, even though they are meant to be used at classes. I don't know anything about their availability out of Norway.
Edited by michau on 09 December 2010 at 11:16pm
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Gosiak Triglot Senior Member Poland Joined 5127 days ago 241 posts - 361 votes Speaks: Polish*, English, German Studies: Norwegian, Welsh
| Message 4 of 10 09 December 2010 at 10:44pm | IP Logged |
Hi Simpleton
Try this site -> http://linguebooks.blogspot.com/search/label/Norwegian
Good luck!
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Simpleton Newbie Moldova Joined 5684 days ago 3 posts - 4 votes
| Message 5 of 10 10 December 2010 at 2:56pm | IP Logged |
Thanks a lot everyone!
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doubledouble Newbie United Kingdom Joined 5273 days ago 8 posts - 9 votes Studies: English
| Message 6 of 10 10 December 2010 at 3:41pm | IP Logged |
hey! I must say I love the way norwegian sounds and the pronunciation, on youtube there is a girl that makes some norwegian language videos, I cannot remember the address right now but if you search for basic norwegian phrases you'll be able to find it! In addition, viking history absolutely amazes me!
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jazzboy.bebop Senior Member Norway norwegianthroughnove Joined 5419 days ago 439 posts - 800 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Norwegian
| Message 7 of 10 10 December 2010 at 8:42pm | IP Logged |
Here are some more potentially useful sites for you.
http://norwegianlanguage.info/
http://www.languageonthe.net/norsk/in
dex.htm
http://langmedia.fiv
ecolleges.edu/laser/norwegian/nlmain.html
http://www.tritrans.net/
First one is a site with various resources, lessons and links. The second is a site
with Norwegian lessons. The third is a collection of video interviews in Norwegian
using everyday language with transcripts and a glossary.
Last one is a basic dictionary, no audio though... If you have an iPod/iPad etc, there
is one called "Collins Mini Gem Norwegian-English dictionary" which has audio and goes
both ways but no contextual examples of the words are given.
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doubledouble Newbie United Kingdom Joined 5273 days ago 8 posts - 9 votes Studies: English
| Message 8 of 10 10 December 2010 at 9:15pm | IP Logged |
Here's the channel of the girl who makes Norwegian videos!
http://www.youtube.com/user/Crienexzy
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