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| zamie Groupie Australia Joined 5254 days ago 83 posts - 126 votes  Speaks: English* Studies: German, Modern Hebrew | Message 1 of 28 18 December 2010 at 2:22pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Hello, I would like to know the opinions of natives who can speak a dialect of Arabic or
people who have learned Arabic, on what they think the difference is between 'Koranic Arabic' and 'Modern Standard Arabic.' Is Koranic Arabic incomprehensible, or only partly incomprehensible , or is it completely understandable? And also, is there a dialect of Arabic used today that is very similar to 'Koranic Arabic', or have all the dialects changed greatly? Thanks. Edited by zamie on 18 December 2010 at 2:23pm 5 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| Andrew C Diglot Senior Member United Kingdom naturalarabic.com Joined 5191 days ago 205 posts - 350 votes Speaks: English*, Arabic (Written) | Message 2 of 28 19 December 2010 at 12:53am | IP Logged | |||||
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It is almost completely understandable - MSA is essentially the same as the language of the Qur'an. Just the occasional obscure word might cause difficulty.
As regards which Arabic dialect is most similar to the language of the Quran - that is a difficult question which I have never seen a conclusive answer to. 3 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| arturs Triglot Senior Member Latvia Joined 5272 days ago 278 posts - 408 votes Speaks: Latvian*, Russian, English | Message 3 of 28 19 December 2010 at 7:52am | IP Logged | |||||
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If I remember correctly then they say that Gulf Arabic is the closest to MSA.
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| zamie Groupie Australia Joined 5254 days ago 83 posts - 126 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Modern Hebrew | Message 4 of 28 19 December 2010 at 8:29am | IP Logged | |||||
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Thanks for the answers, i was just curious -)
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| clumsy Octoglot Senior Member Poland lang-8.com/6715Registered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5179 days ago 1116 posts - 1367 votes Speaks: Polish*, English, Japanese, Korean, French, Mandarin, Italian, Vietnamese Studies: Spanish, Arabic (Written), Swedish Studies: Danish, Dari, Kirundi | Message 5 of 28 19 December 2010 at 2:52pm | IP Logged | |||||
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According to Islam it was sin to translate Koran, so I think "updating" it would be considered a sin too, consequently everybody must speak it, I think.
But maybe now it's OK to translate it, there are some foregin language versions of it. By the fact of banning translation Arabic spread so fast, similarly like Latin has spread by the use of Bible. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Doitsujin Diglot Senior Member Germany Joined 5321 days ago 1256 posts - 2363 votes Speaks: German*, English | Message 6 of 28 19 December 2010 at 4:31pm | IP Logged | |||||
Says who? It's not a sin. It's certainly true that Muslims are supposed to read the Quran in Arabic, but only because Muslims believe for various reasons that it's next to impossible to translate it into any language. BTW, Muslims only condone translations of the meaning of the Qur'an for those who don't speak Arabic. Literal translations are generally frowned upon but are not considered sinful. For more information on this from a Muslim perspective see: Why can the Quran not be translated? 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Huliganov Octoglot Senior Member Poland huliganov.tvRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5356 days ago 91 posts - 304 votes Speaks: English*, Polish, French, German, Russian, Spanish, Esperanto, Czech Studies: Romanian, Turkish, Mandarin, Japanese, Hungarian | Message 7 of 28 19 December 2010 at 11:28pm | IP Logged | |||||
That was a very interesting article about it, and I was interested to note where he quotes a high authority in saying "The issue of translating the Qur'an has been much debated since the first third of the 20th century. However, the translation of the Qur'an can never be considered as a Qur'an in itself, in its rulings and sacredness. The reason for this is that translation is not the word of Allah which was revealed to the Prophet" So in fact, if we go back to that big brouhaha in Florida earlier this year about this pastor who was going to be burning Korans, they were not even really Korans that he was going to burn! Why did nobody point this out at the time? I can't imagine those hicks actually had a bunch of Arabic originals. Just a thought. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| CaucusWolf Senior Member United States Joined 5273 days ago 191 posts - 234 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Arabic (Written), Japanese | Message 8 of 28 20 December 2010 at 12:03am | IP Logged | |||||
Yea I really don't understand this idea about how all Muslims think and agree on everything. There's different types of beliefs and sects(i.e Sunnis, Shiites and Sufis.) just like Christians or Jewish sects. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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