iguanamon Pentaglot Senior Member Virgin Islands Speaks: Ladino Joined 5267 days ago 2241 posts - 6731 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, Portuguese, Haitian Creole, Creole (French)
| Message 1 of 41 30 December 2010 at 3:18pm | IP Logged |
Nicholas Kristoff: "I think the rush to Chinese is missing something closer to home: the paramount importance for our children of learning Spanish.
Look, I’m a fervent believer in more American kids learning Chinese. But the language that will be essential for Americans and has far more day-to-day applications is Spanish. Every child in the United States should learn Spanish, beginning in elementary school; Chinese makes a terrific addition to Spanish, but not a substitute.
Spanish may not be as prestigious as Mandarin, but it’s an everyday presence in the United States — and will become even more so."
Discuss Primero Hay Que Aprender Español
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The Real CZ Senior Member United States Joined 5654 days ago 1069 posts - 1495 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Japanese, Korean
| Message 2 of 41 30 December 2010 at 3:29pm | IP Logged |
Neither are important where I live in the U.S., so people can learn what they want.
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hrhenry Octoglot Senior Member United States languagehopper.blogs Joined 5135 days ago 1871 posts - 3642 votes Speaks: English*, SpanishC2, ItalianC2, Norwegian, Catalan, Galician, Turkish, Portuguese Studies: Polish, Indonesian, Ojibwe
| Message 3 of 41 30 December 2010 at 3:42pm | IP Logged |
The Real CZ wrote:
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Of course people should be able to learn whatever they want.
But Spanish is probably more important currently in the US than you think.
In the summer months near my cabin in northern Wisconsin (the middle of nowhere, really), I get calls for interpretation from a company that hires temporary migrant workers. This is in a town of less than 2000 people.
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The Real CZ Senior Member United States Joined 5654 days ago 1069 posts - 1495 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Japanese, Korean
| Message 4 of 41 30 December 2010 at 4:39pm | IP Logged |
I live in the Northern part of the U.S. I see more Chinese people at school than Hispanics, and I live in Ohio, which is mainly black and white.
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daristani Senior Member United States Joined 7149 days ago 752 posts - 1661 votes Studies: Uzbek
| Message 5 of 41 30 December 2010 at 5:11pm | IP Logged |
Here's what I think is a very perceptive blog commentary on the same article, pointing out the relative UNimportance of Spanish in the United States:
http://isteve.blogspot.com/2010/12/nicholas-kristof-opines-i n-nyt.html
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litovec Tetraglot Groupie Switzerland lingvometer.com Joined 5136 days ago 42 posts - 60 votes Speaks: German, Russian, French, English
| Message 6 of 41 30 December 2010 at 6:11pm | IP Logged |
This part of the blog post you've quoted made my day:
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My parents engaged in the same kind of discussion as this in 1972 when my mom wanted me to take French in high school and my father wanted me to take Spanish, which he argued, like Kristoff in 2010, was more practical.
I suspect the debate was basically about where my parents would like to go on vacations. My mom liked Europe because it was classy, while my father liked Latin America because it was cheap. My dad won, so I took two years of high school Spanish, and he and I took some fun trips to Mexico and South America while my mom stayed home. |
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leosmith Senior Member United States Joined 6555 days ago 2365 posts - 3804 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Tagalog
| Message 7 of 41 31 December 2010 at 5:02am | IP Logged |
Nicholas Kristoff wrote:
Spanish may not be as prestigious as Mandarin |
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Mandarin prestigious in the US? Somebody is smokin' crack.
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Levi Pentaglot Senior Member United States Joined 5572 days ago 2268 posts - 3328 votes Speaks: English*, French, Esperanto, German, Spanish Studies: Russian, Dutch, Portuguese, Mandarin, Japanese, Italian
| Message 8 of 41 31 December 2010 at 5:13am | IP Logged |
I live next to the border with Quebec. By far the most useful foreign language in these parts is French.
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