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Merv
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tennisfan wrote:
I remember when I first started getting interested in Serbo-Croatian, I noticed what seemed
to be a difference in pitch-accent amongst the so-called infamous leaders of Yugoslavia during the 90s. I could
be wrong, but it seems like even to a non-trained ear you can hear the difference between, say, Karadzic and
Izetbegovic, in this mp3 for example:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/8490109089bd2e20/ |
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Good ear. Although, in relation to your previous thread, that is not because they are of different
ethnicities/religions. Izetbegovic was born in Bosanski Samac and grew up in Sarajevo. Both territories use the
East Bosnian dialect (olive in map below):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Štokavian_dialect
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Also called jekavian šćakavian, it has jekavian pronunciation in the vast majority of local forms and it is
spoken by the majority of Bosniaks (Bosnian Muslims) living in area that include bigger Bosnian cities Sarajevo,
Tuzla and Zenica, and by most of Croats and Serbs that live in that area. Together with basic jekavian
pronunciation, mixed pronunciations exist in Tešanj and Maglaj dete-djeteta (ekavian-jekavian) and around
Žepče and Jablanica djete-diteta (jekavian-ikavian). In the central area of the subdialect, the diphthong uo exists
in some words instead of the archaic l and more common u like vuok or stuop, instead of the standard modern
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Karadzic was born and grew up in Petnjica, a village near Berane, which is in Montenegro. In this area, the Zeta-
South Sandzak dialect is spoken (beige in map below):
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Also known as Old Ijekavian. It is spoken in eastern Montenegro, in Podgorica and Cetinje, around the
city of Novi Pazar in eastern Sandžak in Serbia, and in the village of Peroj in Istria. Together with the dominant
jekavian pronunciation, mixed pronunciations like djete-deteta (jekavian-ekavian) around Novi Pazar and Bijelo
Polje, dite-đeteta (ikavian-jekavian) around Podgorica and dete-đeteta (ekavian-jekavian) in the village of
Mrkojevići in southern Montenegro. Mrkovići are also characterised by remainings of čr instead of cr as in the
previously mentioned villages in Podravina.
Some vernaculars have a special reflex of ь/ъ in some cases (between a and e) which is very rare in Štokavian
and Čakavian vernaculars (sän and dän instead of san and dan). Other special phonetic features include sounds
like ʝ in iʝesti instead of izjesti, ç as in śekira instead of sjekira. However these sounds are known also to many in
East-Herzegovina like those in Konavle,[9] and are not necessarily "Montenegrin" specificum. There is a loss of
the /v/ sound apparent, seen in čo'ek or đa'ola. The loss of distinction between /lj/ and /l/ in some vernaculars
is based on Albanian adstrate. Word pļesma is a hypercorrection (instead of pjesma) since many vernaculars
know lj>j.
All verbs in infinitive finish with "t" (example: pjevat). These future have also most respective vernaculars of
East-Herzegovinian, and actually almost all Serbian and Croatian vernaculars. The group a + o gave a ("ka"
instead "kao", reka for rekao), like in other Serbian and Croatian seaside vernaculars. Otherwise, more common is
ao>o.
Currently the Montenegrin language is undergoing a standardization process which will be somewhat based on
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